As long as there's a "bisixual option", I think it's fine. Even if you want your character to be gay all the way (and that's pretty much how I plan to play mine):

1. The 1950's-ish setting is one where a homosixual (or asixual) person might credibly settle down, get married and have a kid because it's What You Do When You Grow Up, even if their heart isn't in it.

2. Not feeling any romantic spark for someone doesn't mean you can't like them as a person. A gay widower can still respect his dead wife and speak of their marriage accordingly even if he only loved her as his closest friend and wasn't in love. He doesn't need to take out his discontent with society's pressure to get married and have kids on her.

LR brings a [censored]ton of guilt, previously unknown lore and ingame logic, plus an antagonist who hates you for reasons you have no clue, what so ever as to what you produced or did. LR is a cluster[censored], worse than Zeta.

Source?

That is your assumption. I don't know what it does and am not claim any definative meaning to that button which is why i mentioned two possible meanings to it. if you have a source that states the marriage is only a hetro marriage please provide it. otherwise it is just a guess and I prefer not to make judgements over guesses. Facts are far more reliable.

It's a video game in a fictional universe. if you like yourself so much look in a mirror.

Exactly. This is Fallout 4. Not Mass Effect 4. Threads like this seem only created either to troll or get people fired up about sixual orientation since it's a sensitive subject.

If it doesn't fit the story, there is no need for it. sixual orientation should not be a box on a checklist to mark off. All it takes is for one person to voice an unpopular opinion, and then all hell breaks lose regardless if they meant no offense.

Man, if you can't RP around a 50's showcase marriage you need to up your RP game. Just saying.

It's a pretty good assumption. If you look at the E3 video there are only six options in the menu: face (default face #), face, extras, six, body, done. There is no "switch character" option, so it is reasonable to assume that the switch character action we saw in the video was performed using the six option.

Source: Todd Howard, the first minute of Fallout 4 gameplay at Bethesda's conference yesterday.

Getting pissed off and threatening to not buy FO4 over the sixuality of the protagonist is ridiculous. Of all the reasons somebody could come up with to not get the game, sixuality shouldn't even be on a top 20 list.

It fits the story. If Wolfenstein: The New Order - a game about dual-wielding shotguns to shoot mecha-Nazis - can understand that people will take a spare moment from just trying to survive and use it to flirt or more if you give them half a chance, so should you.

Oh come on, let's be realistic here for once.

This is an internet forum. When Skyrim was announced I remember closing more than one thread because people were trying to organize a boycott if spears weren't going to be included in the game. There are already people here who have decided to not buy Fallout 4 because they felt the color scheme in the announcement teaser was too saturated, or the textures weren't high enough resolution. I'm looking at the first couple of pages of this subforum and I'm trying to decide if it's worth my effort to try and merge all the threads dealing with the PC having voiced dialog.

What's important to you is your own business, but I don't think attempting to pass judgment on other people's priorities is a productive avenue for conversation. It's also just poor form to post in a thread with nothing more interesting to add than your own disinterest. I handed out warnings back in the day for people jumping into those "We need Spears" threads just make fun of people or to let everyone know how much they didn't care, and I'm perfectly willing to do the same in this thread if it's going to continue to be a problem.

You are free to do what you need to do. I posted my thoughts on the matter and see no reason to continue with it, but if using the term ridiculous to make a point is over the top, feel free to censor away. Just to add, if I noticed that boycott threat if spears were not introduced, I would have considered that ridiculous as well.

Big deal if you start off straight in the game. Don't know about any romance options in the game so can't really comment on them be they straight or gay. Games in the past were pretty much straight, games these days you get more options. Do you boycott old games because you are straight?

Let me put it this way, say that you were forced to play as a gay character. Of course much like this there would be complains about it, but say much like this the response would have been "Why must every game have straight protagonist, you're shoving your straight agenda down our throat!?"

I am disappointed, in every single Fallout game I could start as a gay character why not in 4? I was honestly expecting to play as the child instead. Obviously I'm hoping there is an option of downright ignoring the main quest.

in the 50s and earlier on gays sometimes married members of the opposite six just to avoid suspicion usually a friend sympathetic to there plight remember during that time homosixuality was illegal in most places if fallouts culture never progressed past the 50s it stands to reason that practices like that were still going on because gays were still treated like criminals so maybe you didn't marry someone you love so much as marry a friend who knows the struggle your going through and helped the only way they knew how.

ok one, why do we have 2 topics on the same subject

2 like said there, here, regardless of your personal preferences, is reality in a nutshell

they had a story to write, and it has a interesting event* happen in a point in time.

you don't really know what goes on before it. you have to make THAT part of your story, and you get to do it yourself.

you don't know if this was 2 friends, one if not both gay/lisbian , who decided to have a kid or two and then call it a Divorce,

or Bisixual friends with Benefits,

Or a person who wanted to be single and be a parent after the divorce.

Or it could be brother and sister and Sis was pregnant for (fill in the blank) reasons

Or his actual dad/mom abandoned him and his wife/husband (your sister/brother)(or vice versa)

or one of you got stuck with the baby for (fill in the bank) reasons, (heck some people I know leave there kids to there Brother/sister in the case of death of both parents,)

for all we know you really are just brother and sister or a guy and his Female friend raising his/her Brother's/sister's kid because the wife died in childbirth and the kids heartbroken dad decided to Join her.

In the end, It does not really matter,

What we have is a person who is being the kids mom/dad for whatever reason, and another person whose also being the kids dad/mom for whatever reason, and they happen to have a House and a Car and a Brand new housekeeping robot....

Its your head cannon, your story, pick up the ball from that point in time and run with it, and stop complaining that you cant RP your story your way and make it yours.

Given that it was set in bascialy 1950s Americana from hell. . . My own personal story will probably be that the kid is my (now dead) Brothers Via insemination, he managed to survive the war but died due to long term radiation(he had made the deposit prior to the end of the war or watever) and I took them in because hey the kids Blood and mom because hey shes family too ya know.

*Seriously WWIII is not something that can be considered boring while you are in the middle of it

Considering we have almost no clues what happens storywise after leaving the vault this is a non-issue. Just calm down and wait, keep your pitchforks shiny and pointy until release and use them if the game is bad.

"Because One Dog is not enough..."

There are so many flaws in this complaint I don't know where to begin.

Why should we just include same six? Why not options for every type of sixuality? Tentacle Monsters anyone?
We haven't even got into age, or whatever type of tumblr-kin you identify as.

Oh, and then there is religion and cultural heritage.
The list goes on.


But the a-typical 1950s ideal American family is simple, and most importantly THEMATICALLY CORRECT. It fits the Fallout universe.

But Three Dog is perfect (Sarcasm if you did not know).

Good God man!!! Are you people serious?! This is a real problem for you? You can't find solace or any kind of piece of mind in your role playing experience unless you have the option to be in a romance with the same six??

First of all, this is a video game... do whatever you want in the real world. No one is gay bashing or stopping you from "pretending" to be gay in your little virtual Fallout experience.

Secondly, this is a game that's story revolves around the idea of POST APOCALYPSE, I don't think realistically the protagonist is to worried about his or her sixual status. And frankly I'm not complaining and making stupid posts because I can find love with a super mutant. Ohhh no that's frowned upon, what if I want to auto feilatio myself right after I get out of the vault?? Oh the devs didn't add that feature, guess I won't buy the game. LMFAO shut up.

1. Those other things aren't sixualities. Homo- and bi-sixuality are scientifically recognised as having biological roots. Attraction to tentacle monsters does not.

2. Having the characters be married does not imply any particular religion or cultural background. Nothing shown says that the character can't be Christian, Muslim, Jewish, atheist, etc. Having the character be married to a member of the opposite six strongly implies that they aren't gay.

3. In a typical 1950s ideal American family, there would definitely not be any mixed-race relations. Yet, the player can make a character of any race they like.

4. In Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas, there were numerous references to same-six relationships, and in Fallout 2, there's a situation where, after sleeping with a farmer's son or daughter, the player is forced at gunpoint to "make good" the relationship and marry them, regardless of the player's gender. So how would a gay relationship not be thematically correct?

I wonder if there is a Tranquility Lane like quest where you have a dream about pedophilia. Wouldn't that be far out? I have tentacle monster dreams on a nightly basis and usually, they ravage my lifeless body while I think of how cool it would be if my character in Fallout 4 was secretly a retired assassin who escaped a previously secret gay life in the year 2055 and went back in time only before the bombs fell. But THEN he married his brothers sister in laws cousin to hide from the law. AND THEN they had a baby to prevent aids. What do you think?

Listen to new vegas and how gays are treated... Really... it's very likely that gay marriages were illegal in pre-war America.