Do you guys think someone will make a SKSE (Skyrim Script Extender) like they did with OBSE (Oblivion Script Extender)?

I hope not...because I hated OBSE. :shrug:

People will make what they want to make.

I hope Skyrim won't need a script extender. Then everyone would be happy.

It'll be made. Why? Because no matter what scripts are included in the game, modders will come up with other ones that they want.

Indeed. The default script can't be made to do everything.

Yes, a program who dares to make you modify your Oblivion's shortcut, and that opens up for a second, patches the game, and then closes itself is SOOOO annoying...I totally understand you.

Kiddies...

There was a Morrowind Script Extender as well. Of course Skyrim will get one.

Wait, why did you hate OBSE? OBSE is great.

Not sure why you hate Oblivion Script Extender, but you do realize that you don't need to use it, I'd assume? And while that means you can't use mods that require it, if no script extender were made, chances are those mods wouldn't even be possible, at least not without some limitations. Though admitably, I was reluctant to use Oblivion Script Extender at first, since I wasn't comfortable with the idea of needing a third party program to play the game at all, but once I actually used it to play some mods I really wanted that required it, I never made in install of Oblivion that didn't have it.

In any case, Oblivion Script Extender, and its equivalent for Morrowind before it and the ones for Fallout 3 and New Vegas afterwards, are community made plugins that are created to expand the scripting functions of the game, because there are limits to what the default scripts were capable of, therefore, some mods required a mod to extend the game's scripting capabilities. Most likely, Skyrim will get one as well, as it seems unlikely that the scripting capabilities of the Creation Kit would not leave anything anyone could possibly want to add. But really, this is the sort of thing we should probably wait until after Skyrim is released to think about, because we don't know at this time what sort of scripting functions we might want to add with a Script Extender, seeing as we haven't seen what we can do without it.

Count me in the group that hopes the game has enough features accessible from the new scripting engine that there won't be a need for another script extender. Of course I hoped that would happen with Oblivion too.

There will always be people (and I am one of them) who don't like the idea of running a third-party program that modifies the game that directly. And yes, even though I was an early adopter and contributor to MWSE and wrote some of the first real mods for it, I'm still slightly uncomfortable using it, Morrowind Enhanced or OBSE.

Well for you have any logical reason to hate OBSE?
Its awesome utility thats really expand modding capabilities furtherer then CS can provide.

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It simply inevitable that we'll see SKSE

I tried OBSE once, it was horrible. there was no explenation on how to set it up at all so I never went back and tried to figure it out when I got more experienced. I never really downloaded any script heavy mods any ways. I just wanted more armor and weapons.

Well, each to their own....but I just downloaded it, bunged the files into my Oblivion folder and pretty much forgot all about it. No 'setting up' at all :confused:

Besides, OBSE is packaged with documentation that tells you what to do anyway.

I just hope they build native plugin support, so people can write plugins in c++. That way no loader is required.

Do you realize that all changes that OBSE does are entirely in the RAM, don't you? That makes OBSE more harmless than any existing mod, or unofficial patch. Even the Morrowind Code Patch (which you haven't mentioned) should concern you more, as it patches the MW exe directly on disk.



As Skyrim Blog said, unzip it into "\Oblivion" (NOT "\Oblivion\Data"), replace your Oblivion shortcut with an obse_loader.exe shortcut, and forget about it. Is it really THAT traumatic? Besides, if you only wanted more armor and weapons, and are not OBSE-dependant, I don't know why you were trying to install it.

I hope that Bethesda actually found a way to mod in new scripts through the Creation kit, which should be possible imo
I'd be surprised if they didn't ask themselves "Look, they always make those script extenders, isn't there a way to include that into our new, home- and custom-made engine/development kit?"

A script extender will surely be made if Beth gives us a creation kit (which I'm sure they will).

Mostly as they have no need for much of the OBSE functionality, they have the option to work with the Oblivion.exe file directly if they want to modify AI behaviour, physic and similar, this run much faster and is easier to design.

This does not work for moders as Bethesda would not give away the source code and two mods with different changes could not be used at once.

there are pretty much no legitimate reasons for anyone to dislike OBSE except "i'm lazy". the only thing it requires is that you use obse_loader instead of oblivion.exe.

i mean for [censored]'s sake if you own the Steam version of Oblivion literally ALL YOU NEED TO DO is drop the files in /Oblivion. that's ALL. it automatically latches onto the Steam executable. you don't even need to change the shortcut. same goes for New Vegas and, since it will probably use Steamworks, very likely Skyrim.

there will be an SKSE. there cannot not be an SKSE.

some of the most creative, and wonderful mods would not be possible without OBSE for Oblivion and Morrowind.

instead of having swing swing swing straf swing swing and eternally stand behind a shield + enemies dont get weaker even at having a sliver of health, I now have a robust combat system, can actually stealth kill sensibly, grab grapples and kicks.

my Character can fly with wings, be an -actual- Vampire, Drain enchant items of their magicka for personal use, Fly Dragons and Pilot a ship both land -and- Air


So sorry if clicking a third party program is somehow a life or death situation :shrug: scan your files first :lmao:

For the love of Thor I hope they'll call it SkyrimSE. SKSE and SRSE sound terrible.
Skyrim is a short, easy to type word, just type it down damn it, you evil lazy persons!

I like SKSE

Plus, it follows the tradition of MWSE and OBSE.

Benrahir only likes SKSE because it sounds like sixy

Lol, I swear I didn't realized that until now. But yeah, SKSE is sixy ;D