Does anybody have a fully cropped out version of the akavir banner? not the one seen in morrowind of course, else i wouldn't be asking in this forum lol.

would really appreciate a link to it because i honestly cannot even find a decent version of it none cropped.

It is not an Akavir banner. It is the Imperial Crest, which had Akaviri inspiration.

How many times does this have to be said?

Ummm ok then....

CAN I HAVE A LINK TO THE IMPERIAL CREST NOT THE AKAVIR BANNER IM VERY SORRY THAT I GOT IT WRONG, I'M NOT EXTREMELY IN DEPTH WITH THAT LORE

Sorry but really, you knew what i was talking about, you didn't have to be an ass about it.

Sorry. Just fed up with the mixup.

Anyhoo, go to the source of this confusion for a good one.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:Akaviri_banner.jpg

You can see it plastered over everything having to do with the Empire in TES3 and TES4. Never played Daggerfall or Arena so I dunno if it's in there too. It may have been Akaviri at some point but it's been so co-opted by the Empire that it's become synonymous.

The missing diamond at the top of the broken one seen in TES5 probably represents the missing Amulet of Kings.

lol

It's serious business, here in Skyrim.

The banner being styled after the akaviri has been used as an argument in plenty of threads to support an akaviri invasion-theory. I can understand the "ah man, not this again"-sentiment, it was my first thought when I saw the topic as well. I was pretty sure the topic was going to be about how the banner means the akaviri are involved. Honest mistake to make, no need for anyone to loose their temper...

EDIT: QED, right below

For the love of Stendarr, as many others have said before the banner has been on both Oblivion's and Morrowind's covers, so why does its presence in Skyrim suddenly imply "AKAVIRI INVASION! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!"

I know it looks slightly different, but come on. A tiny bit of one of the wings is broken off, probably representing the supposedly broken empire. The diamons at the top is gone, possibly representing the very same thing, or simply that the amulet of kings is gone.

What in all of this screams "Akaviri influence"?

Found the source of the banner while I was at work today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Maj2004/photo3-1.jpg

Now please lock this thread before we get another one of those "debates" when really it should just be a discussion.

Pretty please.... :icecream:

The ice cream did it - that and the fact I had to delete some posts, and the question was answered.