Skyrim and Racism

Post » Tue May 18, 2010 7:47 pm

Alright, so i was watching videos on youtube and came across the butt licking joke about khajiits. What form will racism take in skyrim. Will it just be a subtle elitism by nords, or like in morrowind the full blown enslaving on racial grounds.

on a lighter note:

How can you tell a bosmer is lying?

Their lips are moving.
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What do you call a kahjiit that isnt a theif, addict or slave?

Dont wory, youll never have to.
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" A blind Dunmer is sitting in a tavern when he suddenly pipes up. "Hey, anyone wanna hear a joke about a dumb Nord?" The man next to the blind Dunmer speaks up, "Before you tell this joke, there's a few things you need to know." "Sure," says the Dunmer, "What's that?" "Well, for one thing, the bartender is a Nord." the man says, "And so is the doorman. And the man next to you, he's a Nord, too. And the two very large men in the corner by the door, they're Nords, as well. In fact, I'm a Nord, too." The man leans in really closely to the blind Dunmer. "So, you still want to tell that joke about a dumb Nord?" The blind Dunmer cleared his throat and smiled, "Nah... not if I'm going to have to explain it 6 fetchin' times!""
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:58 am

I think it should be subtle with a minority of areas with big problems like Leyawiin and the horrific wife of the Count. She was easily one of my most loathed characters in that game.

It definitely shouldn't be universal either. The racists make a bad name for others of their race, but it shouldn't dominate the game's society in my opinion.

As far as Morrowind goes what goes around comes around, I think that society got what it deserved. I don't want to see anything quite as hideous as that culture in Skyrim, other than in pockets of outlaws.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 5:47 pm

Redguard don't like Imperials.


Imperials are meh


Dark elves and High elves hate everyone

Woodelves hate Kahjiit and vice versa

Argonians hate Dark elves

Nords hate all elves

Bretons/Redguards/ Elves hate Nords :P


what a world

grant it, its pretty subtle...not an all out war
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 1:48 pm

As Skyrim is the land of the Nords I think we'll see a lot of racism against the Elves in the game...
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 6:15 pm

Redguards Hate Imperials & Bretons
Khajiit's Hate Argonians
Argonians Hate Khajiit's
Imperials Hate Redguards
Bretons Hate Imperials And Redguards
Dark Elves Hate All Human & Beast like Khajiit,Argonian & Orc Races & Wood Elves
High Elves Hate Wood Elves
Wood Elves Hate Dark Elves & High Elves
Orc's Hate Everyone
Nords Hate Imperials And All Elven Races
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 7:42 am

I wonder what the Nord perspective is on Bretons. Bretons come from Manmer and are a mix of Nede (Nord) and Elf.

Any thoughts?
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 5:03 pm

I wonder what the Nord perspective is on Bretons. Bretons come from Manmer and are a mix of Nede (Nord) and Elf.

Any thoughts?


Nedics aren't Nords, There were Humans in Tamriel before the Nords Hopped over here.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 10:50 pm

this has been done so many times
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 10:05 am

I wonder what the Nord perspective is on Bretons. Bretons come from Manmer and are a mix of Nede (Nord) and Elf.

Any thoughts?

They probably don't hate them, but find them weak and wussy with there reliance on magic and girly hands.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:55 pm

They probably don't hate them, but find them weak and wussy with there reliance on magic and girly hands.


Well i simply asked because i was wondering if there was going to be a faction like the twin lanterns. What would you all think about that?
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:54 am

Nedics aren't Nords, There were Humans in Tamriel before the Nords Hopped over here.



I believe they share some blood...

"The main religion of Skyrim is an ancient religion that originated in Atmora with ancestors of the Nords, the Nedics."

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Nord

"The document Before the Ages of Man uses the word Nedic as a synonym for Nordic: the Atmoran settlers who followed Ysgramor to Tamriel. According to this text and some others, Nedes are simply Nords."



"Frontier, Conquest, Accommodation, a Social History of Cyrodiil corrects the earlier documents, identifying the Nedic peoples as those who migrated to Tamriel in a slow trickle over hundreds of years, since time immemorial up to the day Ysgramor set sail. The recently-published third edition of the Pocket Guide to the Empire endorses this view. Here, Nedes are Nordic by race but not necessarily by custom or religion, as they arrived in small numbers in a continent already populated by many cultures of elves and indigenous men."

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nede
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Well, the way I see it is that Argonians like Khajiits and Khajiits like Argonians and they both hate every other race while all other races worship them.

But everything can't be perfect. The truth is:

Redguards Hate Imperials & Bretons
Khajiit's Hate Argonians
Argonians Hate Khajiit's
Imperials Hate Redguards
Bretons Hate Imperials And Redguards
Dark Elves Hate All Human & Beast like Khajiit,Argonian & Orc Races & Wood Elves
High Elves Hate Wood Elves
Wood Elves Hate Dark Elves & High Elves
Orc's Hate Everyone
Nords Hate Imperials And All Elven Races

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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 12:11 pm

Redguards Hate Imperials & Bretons
Khajiit's Hate Argonians
Argonians Hate Khajiit's
Imperials Hate Redguards
Bretons Hate Imperials And Redguards
Dark Elves Hate All Human & Beast like Khajiit,Argonian & Orc Races & Wood Elves
High Elves Hate Wood Elves
Wood Elves Hate Dark Elves & High Elves
Orc's Hate Everyone
Nords Hate Imperials And All Elven Races

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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:17 pm

Everyone on this forum hates Kirov Class.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 12:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db-o_HrpC-0&feature=player_detailpage#t=536s

Todd talking about racism.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 1:13 pm

Wouldn't the reaction table at the bottom of this page apply?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Races
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Post » Wed May 19, 2010 12:10 am


Orc's Hate Everyone


not tru orc's love shiny :P
before saying "" not every1 and not everyting" sloaths are shiny in some way
and they do love every1
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 10:12 pm

Wouldn't the reaction table at the bottom of this page apply?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Races


Ah so the common perception of Orcs as racist against all other racists is merely projection. They in-fact have no racial biases (not even positive biases for fellow orcs) while they suffer nearly universal discrimination.

and they do love every1


If you look at the reaction table, Orcs appear to be posess the most egalitarian views of themselves and the other groups by far. NPC orcs have standard 0 reaction modifier for all species/ethnic groups and don't have the customary +5/+10 for those of the same group even.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 8:53 am

Todds words on this matter are really encouraging. I love this kind of conflict. Down with the elves! Nords for life. :disguise:
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 10:46 am

Ah so the common perception of Orcs as racist against all other racists is merely projection. They in-fact have no racial biases (not even positive biases for fellow orcs) while they suffer nearly universal discrimination.


Kind of surprising. I expected Orcs to hate Redguards and Redguards to respect Orcs as worthy enemies.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 12:43 pm

Very interesting post!

I think that Khajiits will hate everyone and keep acting as if they were superior (Sometimes I can't ffffcking stand them on Oblivion) specially argonians and dark elves... those are the biggest racism problems in Cyrodiil.

Anyway we play now in the nord's homeland so we can expect them to have some advantage. (Finally because I remember the nords to be pretty mistreated too)
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Post » Wed May 19, 2010 12:41 am

Very interesting post!

I think that Khajiits will hate everyone and keep acting as if they were superior (Sometimes I can't ffffcking stand them on Oblivion) specially argonians and dark elves... those are the biggest racism problems in Cyrodiil.

Anyway we play now in the nord's homeland so we can expect them to have some advantage. (Finally because I remember the nords to be pretty mistreated too)


But Khajiits are superior (excluding Argonians). :intergalactic:
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 2:53 pm

Todds words on this matter are really encouraging. I love this kind of conflict. Down with the elves! Nords for life. :disguise:


As long as you do not mistake us Khajiits for those pitiful bosmer, then you will not feel our claws rip through you, Nord! :spotted owl:
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:51 am

Everyone hates everyone. Just like real life! :up:

Although i expect a lot of conflict between the Nords and the Dunmer, Morrowind in ruins and all.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:10 am

According to that table, no race dislikes Bosmer. I refuse to believe this
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