Skyrim appears to use reskinned Fallout 3 ghoul models : V

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:26 am

For anyone that has seen the magazine, is it just me or have Bethesda reskinned and edited the models of ghouls from Fallout 3 to make the three undead warriors shown on the Radiant Story page?

http://www.thereviewcrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/fallout_3_zombie_ghoul.jpg

Compare the shapes of the brows, the way the left eye is larger than the right eye, and the shape of the skull; the faces of the two creatures are physically identical. If what I have posted is true and the Skyrim undead are just rehashed Fallout 3 models, I'm disappointed.

Thoughts?

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:32 pm

The Ghouls from Fallout 3 are similar to the Lich in Oblivion. 'You can't fix what's not broken'

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:21 pm

The Ghouls from Fallout 3 are similar to the Lich in Oblivion. 'You can't fix what's not broken'

this :whistling:

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:19 am

I'm not talking about them looking similar, I'm saying that it appears that they're using exactly the same model, reskinned, with some armour strapped on.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:37 am

Wow you're right.

That's just lazy...

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:42 pm

I'm not talking about them looking similar, I'm saying that it appears that they're using exactly the same model, reskinned, with some armour strapped on.

good old bethesda

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:25 pm

If they are going to add some muscles and tissue to skeletons, it is obvious that they will look similar to these gouls, no problem with that, at least imo.
Maybe we will see more variety in them with this addition.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:14 am

They do look similar, but even if they did use the ghoul model as a starting point, it definitely looks changed and improved enough to be something new. Also keep in mind, if that even is for sure what they did, it won't use the same animations or sounds as the ghouls or anything.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:16 am

But these guys still have beards. [censored] badass.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:02 pm

If they are going to add some muscles and tissue to skeletons, it is obvious that they will look similar to these gouls, no problem with that, at least imo.
Maybe we will see more variety in them with this addition.

Not similar, it appears that it's the same model, just reskinned with armour strapped on. I have a feeling I'm going to be posting this a lot in this thread, hence the highlighted 'same model'.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:00 am

Is this really what people have resorted to criticizing now? :shrug:

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:18 pm

good old bethesda

Good old sentakai, always here to bash on Bethesda.

Every game does this, it's just most of the time people don't notice. There's no reason to make new assets if you can slightly alter the model.

And, no, it's not the same model. You aren't looking at the entire thing.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:25 am

I don't mind recycling models if the two creatures would look similar anyway :shrug:

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:11 pm

Is this really what people have resorted to criticizing now? :shrug:

You can say that about all the criticisms.

It's not just that one thing, it's all of them combined.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:22 pm

OH MY GOD!!!

Well darn, can't buy the game then. How DARE they use a perfectly good model from a perfectly good game.

These people make me sick!
[/sarcasm]

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:10 pm

Is this really what people have resorted to criticizing now? :shrug:

Game developers are NOT allowed to reuse assets!
EVERYTHING must be made from scratch.
Come on, this is common knowledge.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:02 pm

Guys, after looking closely, I have to say I disagree. I think the shape of the head is different, the arms are a bit thicker than FO3s ghouls, and I think the only reason it kinda looks like that is because one of them in the magazine happens to have his mouth wide open similar to how the ghouls in Fallout 3 often were. It's similar, but not the same, even if they by some chance did in fact use the ghouls as a starting point.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:07 am

OH MY GOD!!!

Well darn, can't buy the game then. How DARE they use a perfectly good model from a perfectly good game.

These people make me sick!
[/sarcasm]

I know right?!?!!?

Rabble rabble rabble!

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:54 pm

It looks different enough from the feral ghouls, if it saves them time that they can spend on something else instead that's perfectly fine with me.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:11 pm

You can say that about all the criticisms.

It's not just that one thing, it's all of them combined.

All of what combined? There haven't been that many valid criticisms, to say that least.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:08 pm

Guys, after looking closely, I have to say I disagree. I think the shape of the head is different, the arms are a bit thicker than FO3s ghouls, and I think the only reason it kinda looks like that is because one of them in the magazine happens to have his mouth wide open similar to how the ghouls in Fallout 3 often were. It's similar, but not the same, even if they by some chance did in fact use the ghouls as a starting point.

Look at the undead guy on the far left. Look at the way exactly the same eye bulges out as on a ghoul. Look at the top of his head; the shape of his skull is the same, with the same contours. Look at how both of their brows stick out; it's clearly the same model.

Also guys, I'm not saying it's some awful sin to reuse assets, but considering they were already reused in New Vegas, and this is a completely different franchise, I would've thought they could come up with some new models after 2 years.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:32 pm

Calm down people.

The arm models are much bigger than that of Fallout 3. Look at the girth in the Nord warriors wrists compared to the lanky and frailness of the ghouls.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:53 pm

undead is undead. how else are mutant zombies supposed to look anyways?

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:01 pm

The skeletons have more teeth :tongue:

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:42 pm

All of what combined? There haven't been that many valid criticisms, to say that least.

All invalid criticism combined make an equal-or-greater-than quantity of valid criticisms.
Didn't you take Internet Arguing 101?