Skyrim Civil War

Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:13 pm

and even though i'll be starting off as an imperial i'd try to support the seperation of skyrim..... hopefully it doesn't fail as badly as the french revolution

fail as badly as the french revolution? the french revolution was just bloody, it was quite successful in revolutionizing the government though. There were a few nut-jobs that took power (Robespierre) and there were a lot of torture and murder, but in a videogame that's kinda what i want to see.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 3:12 pm

fail as badly as the french revolution? the french revolution was just bloody, it was quite successful it revolutionizing the government though. There were a few nut-jobs that took power (Robespierre) and there were a lot of torture and murder, but in a videogame that's kinda what i want to see.


Nothing like Robespierre please, that guy was the definition of crazy. Tenth grade European history all over again...I already stated it would depend on the new empire.....but the chance to slaughter dirty lizard people and make some argonian boots..the empire is looking good now.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:44 am

As we know the High King of Skyrim will be killed in the beginning of the game and there will be a civil war. pretty sure the wars between those who want to stay in the empire and those who want to leave the crumbling regime. i have a feeling we might play a role in the war (why wouldn't we) do you think we could pick sides which side would you wanna be on the empire or the others. I'd pick the side to leave the empire because why stay on the side where people are leaving more and more and by this time Black Marsh and Elsweyr both left the empire. ALSO what do you hope our reward at the end of the war or game should be since we have "noble-ish blood" we should get some kind of new status rather than some armor and let go like oblivion i know its a stretch to say new Emperor but maybe new High King or some thing close like advisor

So which side would you choose and what would u like to be our ultimate reward?


I'd side with order anyday. (empire)
But I don't think we will be able to pick sides, I reckon the path will be decided for us ala oblivion.
Its like saying if you sided with the mythic dawn, it'd change the world way too much and that would result in a ending like fallout.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 5:55 pm

they could just pull another alternate endings like in daggerfell and pull another warp of the west (the north in this case)
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:22 pm

i wonder if its even still the mede empire ugh it kinda svcks that we gotta wait so long for the game then we play it we got to patch the last 200 years together
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:29 pm

I really hope they don't make one side "Evil" and the other side "Good". If they do this i will be extremely disappointed.

Like people have said though, It's too tough to make a decision on which side I would choose right now. Not enough info.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:48 pm

I made a political map of Skyrim. I hope you find it useful.
http://i.imgur.com/eK2lM.png
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 11:08 am

I made a political map of Skyrim. I hope you find it useful.
http://i.imgur.com/eK2lM.png

My first character's a dunmer, so i'll probably gravitate to the east with my kind, and with the rebels my first play through.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 7:59 pm

Before I get into globalism versus libertarian philosophy, my first point is that the Empire is crumbling - they shouldn't be trying to expand to Skyrim before consolidating Cyrodile into a strong nation again. Over-extention before a nation is ready is a sure way to ensure ruin.


Now, on to the philosophical elements.

Globalist agendas subscribe to the progressive movement's doctrine - that a single, powerful, untoppable government that can lay down thousands of laws can ensure peace and safety. They view competition as wasteful and dangerous, partly because such a thing could threaten the Party in power's rule, which is usually composed of aristocrats despite their advocation for equality. Much of these views stem from a fear of chaos, and that surpressing chaos will lead to safety.
The Empire subscribes to these views to a certain degree.

Libertarian agendas subscribe to a combination of John Locke and Darwinian principles - that freedom, personal responsibility, and competition are all desired attributes in any nation. They view competition as particularly useful, as a rival will force you to push yourself past your comfort zone, and will show you your weaknesss. As such, the Separatists in Skyrim will likely be more in line with these philosophies - more or less. Much of their views stem from viewing chaos as an amenable force - much touted is the fact that the universe would never had collesceled into what we know it as today without that essential chaos, a tiny imbalance that caused a gravitational landslide, eventually leading to the formation of stars. They often view order-imposing forces as the Empire as harmful in the long run - such rule of law may provide temporary safety, at the price of inviting stagnation. Similarly, often pointed out is that smaller, sovereign nations, are more likely to be able to overturn a wasteful and corrupt regime. A wasteful and corrupt empire, on the other hand, is very hard to fix or topple. Any star wars fan knows this ;P

Whichever you tend to lean towards will likely determine which side you will choose in Skyrim - the Unifying Order of the Empire, or the Ever-Adapting Freedom Fighters of the Separatists. Chaos or Control, Evolution or Stagnation, Natural Sovereigty or Imposed Rule of Law.
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