Skyrim's combat system will be marvelous. Examples.. Proof! : V

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:45 am

So now I remember one game that had an awesome combat system.

Dark Messiah: Might and Magic..

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZegsGlGvtAU

So what does this has to do with Skyrim, well actually Arkane Studios works on it too!

Want proof? Here it is..

Eurogamer: So ZeniMax has acquired Arkane. Why not do a publishing deal with those guys?

Todd Howard: Well, they had been doing a game for us, and put it this way - we like it a lot. That's unannounced as well - they've been working on a game for us as a publishing deal, and we decided we should make it a permanent thing. I know the guys there - Raph [Colantonio, founder] and Harvey [Smith] - they're just very similar guys, they like similar things.

Article: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:13 am

I think you're misinterpreting. Arkane was working on a game for Bethesda's publishing house - it was still an Arkane-developed game.

That said, I wouldn't doubt that some influence from Dark Messiah made its way into Skyrim.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:35 am

Sigh.... How many times must this be said regarding Bethesda Game Studious.

Bethesda Game Studios is developing Elder Scrolls V: Skryim and most likely all future Elder Scrolls titles. Bethesda Softworks, a entriely different company also owned by ZeniMax publishes all the games that come from devs under the ZeniMax family. Arkane Studios, just like ID Software, are making their OWN games of their own creation. They have nothing to do with Elder Scrolls V: Skryim. That is being made entirely by Bethesda Game Studios.

Edit* Hopefully nobody noticed my moment of dyslexia :whistling:

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:43 am

I think you're misinterpreting. Arkane was working on a game for Bethesda's publishing house - it was still an Arkane-developed game.

That said, I wouldn't doubt that some influence from Dark Messiah made its way into Skyrim.

You're wrong. Arkane is working on Skyrim too.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:12 pm

You got it wrong, just because they acquired Arkane it doesn't mean Arkane is developing Skyrim together. However I can see them using some Dark Messiah concepts as a source of inspiration or ideas to develop Skyrim's combat.

Bethesda is simply publishing a game developed by Arkane team. Just like they are publishing a game by id, Rage. It doesn't mean id is working on Skyrim.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:36 am

You got it wrong, just because they acquired Arkane it doesn't mean Arkane is developing Skyrim together. However I can see them using some Dark Messiah concepts as a source of inspiration or ideas to develop Skyrim's combat.

Why would I be wrong? Last time I looked the combat in oblivion was a little depressive, now when Arkane is acquired they are of course going to take a part of what they have been famous for.. Their combat systems and how they did it.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:07 am

How many DM threads are we going to have? Great first person combat in a terrible game....

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:41 am

Why would I be wrong? Last time I looked the combat in oblivion was a little depressive, now when Arkane is acquired they are of course going to take a part of what they have been famous for.. Their combat systems and how they did it.

Hah, no dude :lol:

It's a publishing deal, it is written on your article

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:11 am

Why would I be wrong? Last time I looked the combat in oblivion was a little depressive, now when Arkane is acquired they are of course going to take a part of what they have been famous for.. Their combat systems and how they did it.

Arkane definitely won't be working on it, but I'm sure that combat has a bit of influence from Dark Messiah.

Also, as you it said in your quote, Arkane is working on their own game for Bethesda Softworks, that game, is not TES as that is Bethesda Game Studios series and only BGS's.
And I hope combat and environmental effects are the only influence, because everything else in that game was horrible.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:29 pm

I suppose it should also be pointed out that the title Arkane is working on has not been announced. It's in your own quote and it's still true.
Skyrim, which has been announced and is being entirely developed by Bethesda Game Studios and has been since they finished Fallout 3. By your own quote they were originally just doing a publishing deal with Arkane but they liked what they were doing so much they bought them and now they are a in house developer. That means they are still working on that unannounced project. I,e. The reason ZeniMax (Not Bethesda Game studios) bough them.

Edit* Hopefully nobody noticed my second moment of dyslexia :whistling:

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:32 am

Actually, this article is old, from august.

This not-announced game is indeed Skyrim, now it has been announced, but still they don't change the article right?

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:11 am

Fail. :spotted owl:

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:02 am

Actually, this article is old, from august.

This not-announced game is indeed Skyrim, now it has been announced, but still they don't change the article right?

Dude, you are making me laugh :rofl:

Can't you read in the same article "publishing deal"? Arkane is developing their own game so that Bethesda Softworks (not Bethesda Game Studios) can publish.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:17 am

This not-announced game is indeed Skyrim

No. It's not. As I said, TES is a strictly BGS series. Thats why people from BGS are in the "Meet The Devs" Thread. not people from Arkane.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:11 pm

Actually, this article is old, from august.

This not-announced game is indeed Skyrim, now it has been announced, but still they don't change the article right?

You apparently did not read my post at all sir. I'm well aware that the article is old, and I'm fully aware that it would be ridiculous to go change a old article.
Here is a quote from The job @ Arkane section of ZeniMax's website.

"We currently have a AAA unannounced title in development (PS3, Xbox 360 and PC) and are looking for an Animator to join our unique and talented team. The Animator will report into the Lead Animator and will be responsible for creating real-time animation for in-game characters using for PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 platforms."

http://jobs.zenimax.com/index.php?a=info&d=arkane

See? Still unannounced just like I said.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:15 am

Dude, you are making me laugh :rofl:

Can't you read in the same article "publishing deal"? Arkane is developing their own game so that Bethesda Softworks (not Bethesda Game Studios) can publish.

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

P.S

Arkane is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

Bethesda Game studios is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:07 am

Look at the trailer it says Bethesda Game Studios not Arkane.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:18 am

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

P.S

Arkane is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

Bethesda Game studios is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

Wrong again, Arkane is now part of Zenimax, who owns both Bethesda Game Studios and Softworks. But I believe Todd Howard may use some ideas from Dark Messiah in Skyrim's combat, but not copying it, just taking some notes on how to do a nice combat system.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:02 am

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

...Cookies, eh?

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:53 pm

Those animations were so unrealistic anyways...

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:06 am

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

P.S

Arkane is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

Bethesda Game studios is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

Actually no, you are wrong. Bethesda Game Studios, Bethesda Softworks, ID Software, Arkane Studios, Machinegames, and ZeniMax online studio are all owned and a part of ZeniMax media inc. They are part of the same family yes, but Bethesda Softworks does not own any of these companies. They are like the brother who publishes everything the other brothers do.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:12 am

Wrong again, Arkane is now part of Zenimax, who owns both Bethesda Game Studios and Softworks. But I believe Todd Howard may use some ideas from Dark Messiah in Skyrim's combat, but not copying it, just taking some notes on how to do a nice combat system.

See? Skyrim's combat will indeed be marvelous, what are you all fighting about? We all came to the same point..

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:47 am

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

P.S

Arkane is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

Bethesda Game studios is a part of Bethesda Softworks..

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

The only thing I see is the mention that both BGS and Arkane get their games published through Bethesda Softworks. This is not rational grounds for the deduction that Arkane is working on TES 5.

Your argument is based primarily on http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/truthiness.

See? Skyrim's combat will indeed be marvelous, what are you all fighting about? We all came to the same point..

Your attempt to shift blame for instigating this debate on to those calling you out on your overly wishful thinking is amusing... but ultimately transparent.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:25 am

And you don't believe Todd Howard may ask for help since they made one of the best combat systems ever?

He may use them for inspiration and tips, not fully include their team in the development process, especially when they are currently developing their own game.

See? Skyrim's combat will indeed be marvelous, what are you all fighting about? We all came to the same point..

We are arguing with you on how you seem to think Arkane is developing TES.

» Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:17 am

It's like you have this cookie, it becomes friend with another cookie.. The first cookie needs an improvement, so what does the other cookie do? It helps it.

...Priceless. :lmao: