Skyrim Creation Kit Follower No Dialogue Bug

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:27 am

Skyrim Creation Kit Follower No Dialogue Bug?

I tried posting this question on yahoo answers and got an answer to come to this site to find out about this follower bug, I couldn't find any answers so I signed up and decided to see if anyone on here knows the answer for fixing this problem. He said this bug was introduced with the latest (1.7.7.06) update. Anyway, If you want you can explain how to fix this or send me a link to a useful topic about this. Thanks for the help if someone does help, details are below.

Recently I have been trying to create my own follower for Skyrim using the Creation Kit. I have watched lots of tutorials on how to make followers and followed them exactly step by step. I am having a problem though, I know how to add all the aspects to make a functioning follower but once i have added them into the game there is no option to say 'Follow me, I need your help.' or even any option to talk to them, all there is, is an option to talk but it brings up no dialogue speech options and only makes the follower say default speech quotes. I may know the cause but i have tried to fix it and it is not working. Let me explain. There are certain voices that are scripted to be follower compatible voices and other voices that can't be used with a follower NPC. There are also voices that don't work with certain races. I was trying to make a follower that is marriageable and that can be a follower, so I loaded up the Creation Kit loaded the Skyrim.esm from File/Data as you always have to do when modding Skyrim, after the Creation Kit had finished loading everything I went to the 'Object Window', chose the 'Miscellaneous' tab and from the 'Miscellaneous' drop down options I chose 'Form List' and used the filter to search 'VoicesFollowerAll' which brings up a list of voices that are compatible with follower NPCs. The voice I am trying to use is 'FemaleEvenToned' (Not the default option for 'FemaleEvenToned'). Now because I am making my follower marriageable as well as a follower I need to have a voice that is on both the 'VoicesFollowerAll' and 'VoicesMarriageAll' form lists which tell you which voices can be used for follower NPCs and marriage NPCs. 'FemaleEvenToned' is on both of those lists so in game there should be dialogue options and an option to say 'Follow me, I need your help.' but there are still no dialogue options. Has anyone got any ideas on how to fix this? (by the way my follower's race is: NordRace and my follower is female.) It would be greatly appreciated if someone can come up with a solution for fixing this. In case it is needed here are my exact followers details (I am using the apachiiskyhair mod as well for my followers hair) anyway here are the details: TRAITS TAB: ID: Emily, Name: Emily, Short Name: Emily, Unique and Essential are ticked, Race: NordRace, Female is ticked, Voice: FemaleEvenToned STATS TAB: Level: 81, Auto calc stats is ticked, Class is left as default (EncClassDremoraMelee) FACTIONS TAB: -1 CurrentFollowerFaction, 0 PotentialFollowerFaction, 0 PotentialMarriageFaction RELATIONSHIPS TAB: ID: EmilyRelationship, Parent NPC: Emily, Child NPC: Player, Relationship Level: Ally AI DATA TAB: Aggression: Aggressive, Confidence: Foolhardy, Assistance: Helps Friends and Allies INVENTORY TAB: Default Outfit: ArmorDaedricOutfitNoHelmet, Inventory: 2 Daedric Daggers CHARACTER GEN PARTS TAB: Hair Colour: HairColour02LightBlonde, Eyes: FemaleEyesHumanDarkBlue, Hair: ApachiiHairF04 CHARACTER GEN MORPHS TAB: (havn't messed with any scale measurements) Nose Type: NoseType5, Mouth Type: LipType 1, Eyes Type: EyesType1. Thats all the details, any info or details not givin means they are unedited and are default settings. I Know half of the details may not be nessasary but its just in case. Thanks in advance if anyone does help to solve this problem. :smile:
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Phoenix Draven
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:01 pm

If you want to upload your plugin somewhere I can take a look at it.

I'm the guy who wrote http://j-u-i-c-e.hubpages.com/_esforum/hub/Hot-to-Turn-Your-Skyrim-Character-into-a-Follower.
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Glu Glu
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:38 pm

I could upload the plugin file to steam, i'll send you a link once I have uploaded it, do I need to upload the relationship plugin (don't know if I even can but will you get the relationship file with the plugin of my follower?).
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Klaire
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:40 pm

Just send me the plugin.
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Bek Rideout
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:58 pm

Apparently I don't have permission to post links so i'll send it to you via PM message
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maya papps
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:10 am

Ok so I don't have permission to send you a PM either so I'll add the link on my profile page
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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:56 pm

Ok the plugin file is on my profile under contact information, it is set as my website even though it is not my website. :D
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Kirsty Collins
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:38 pm

The dialogue you want is defined on quest

DialogueFavorGeneric

The quest itself limits the dilaogues to people meeting the quest requirements:

Actor can not be commanded (Summoned)
Actor voice type must be in FormList "DefaultNPCVoiceTypes"
Actor can not be in faction JobJarlFaction

Then if you go look at the dialogue itself, there must be a response line that matches the criteria of your NPC.
Almost all of them have these conditions:

Actor MUST be in PotentialFollowerFaction
Actor can NOT be in faction PotentialHireling
Actor can NOT be in faction CurrentFollowerFaction
Actor Relationship Rank to player must be >= 1.0
GlobalVariable PlayerFollowerCount must be 0

And then the various responses have specific voiceset conditions to control the sentence/audio.

If it is not working, then something above is failing.
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Annick Charron
 
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:03 am

You follower http://www.truancyfactory.com/images/follower-test.jpg. There is nothing obviously wrong with the file. I suspect you have a compatibility issue. Have you used any other follower mods? Did you test your follower with a clean save (no other mods loaded)?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:14 am

I am using the apachiiskyhair mod and I have a follower mod which may be the problem, the mod is on steam it is called UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul which allows you to add extra options to your followers dialogue and allows you to have up to 15 followers at once, I only have 13 but the max may be 13 which could be the problem, for more detail on the follower mod look it up on steam because I can't post a link sorry :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:26 pm

I will uninstall the follower mod and test it, i suspect the follower mod is the problem.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:13 am

WOW! I am an idiot. All along I never really counted my followers properly, I only guessed and thought I had around 13 but it turns out I have 15 which is max for the follower mod so I told 1 follower to part ways and the dialogue works! :D Emily is now my follower, Thanks for the help! and sorry for the inconvenience and stupidity of this post. :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 pm

No problem. Glad you got it working.
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