this might not be a deal breaker, but I'd hate to see them make the armor/apparel system the way it was in Fallout 3, where instead of finding pieces of outfits or armor, you could only find full outfits/armor, offering little customization. Another thing would svck would be if none of the main guilds returned. I'll be disappointed if the Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, and Thieves Guild don't all return. That's not to mention the Dark Brotherhood, which is also awesome, but not quite as essential. Last but not least, I'm really hoping that they put forth some effort on making races more unique in terms of body styles, hopefully more so like in Morrowind than Oblivion, even if it means argonians and khajiits can't wear full-face helmets, or shoes (I hope they can't).

i agree with you on the armor man would that blow and DB is confirmed

would it help to buy some disc cases like off Amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=quad+DVD+case&x=0&y=0

When Morrowind came out, I had to get a new graphics card in order to play it.

When Oblivion came out, my 2 year old computer would run it only on low graphics (I borrowed my brother's copy to see if I could even play it), I finally can play it on this PC with high graphics enabled (which is why I didn't buy it until this year). I'm disabled and on a limited income, so I can't buy an all new system every year, but I do love to game. My current machine runs Dragon Age, Witcher, Oblivion, and other games just fine on high graphics (It's a lower-end gaming laptop). However, if they don't optimize the game engine (especially the graphics engine), then yeah, I might have to buy a new PC just to run Skyrim at a decent framerate. I hate it how every new game that comes out these days seems to have the "recommended" requirements be the latest, greatest, most expensive hardware on the market. And yes, you won't have that problem oon XBox 360 or PS3, but for me, the console editions lose features (especially modding capabilities) that I don't like to lose. I also prefer PC control setups, because it's much easier to access hotkeys via a keyboard.

Hopefully, Bethesda won't go with the "you'll need a new PC to run this as it was meant to be played" mentality, but they have in the past.

DB is confirmed? that's awesome! When/where did they confirm that?

As long as this game does not resemble anything in Dragon Age 2 with the ridiculous amount of recycled environments I'm good with it. From what I have heard so far from Bethesda sounds like this will not happen so no worries. God do I really hate that game though

there are more official sites on the thread that talked about the DB being confirmed but http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/dark-brotherhood-returning-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/ is one

wow i have never heard of that that sux man im sorry dude.. i play on xbox so i had no idea

I really don't know what your talking about. People really over exaggerate how much a game takes to play. I have a friend who up untill about 6 months ago had, a 10 year old computer that has played every Bethesda RPG up to date. I have a computer in my house that is about 3 years old and was not that great when we bought it, and i runs Crysis on high (not ultra). Really people you don't need a frame rate of 200 to play the game right, 30 will do you fine. If you what a great computer for an affordable price, one which will last you at least five years, DO NOT BUY IT FORM THE STORE. They charge you about two to three times what the parts are worth. By each part separately form a place like Newegg. My brother built a computer with a 6 core CPU 8 gigs of ram and a 430 Nvid for only around $850. Lap tops are also way more expensive. If you want bang for your buck get a desk top computer.

Well, considering Skyrim is also coming out on the Xbox 360 and PS3 (i.e. the same systems Oblivion was made for) there shouldn't be too many major advancements in the tech, meaning you hopefully won't have to worry too much. It definitely won't be as much of a leap as Morrowind to Oblivion, which were made for 2 different console generations.

Discount_Flunky is right though, you'll get so much more out of your PC if you build it yourself rather than buy it. My dad and I built the PC I'm using now about 5 years ago, and to this day I've yet to have any problems running games, new or old, on high or very high settings.

I honestly can't think of anything that would deter me from buying this game. I will probably play it more than once.

I'm still playin' Oblivion, and Fallout 3.

What will stop me from playing more than twice tho is if this game has an "ending."

Nowadays no free roaming, go anywhere, do anything, at anytime rpg should have an end.

There is just no excuse for the devs to say "OK that's it. Start a new character."

The only thing that would make me not play it is if it were an action based linear first person shooter game. Unless something goes horribly wrong I don't think I have to worry about that.
It's open world. I'm rarely disappointed with open world games. Probably why I enjoyed gothic three even though it was for the most part completely buggy and horrid. I could at least run around the landscape and play how I wanted. I know it's a silly reason for enjoying games but the one thing I really hate about most games is being constrained to a linear path. I enjoy the tedium of wandering aimlessly I guess.

Theo nly thing that could make me NOT buy skyim is if they make it TOO stats-based. But seeing how Oblivion went, I doubt it, Pre-order for me!

I totally agree. Open world games should never have ending that actually ends the game. It's one of the few things I HATED about Fallout: 3 and NV.

HEY GUYS I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANKS FOR THE GREAT THREAD.. its gonna get closed here pretty soon i just wanted to say that im glad you all respected the thread and didn't bicker which is rare among most threads..in a lot of them a couple people just argue the whole time.. Its refreshing to have a nice respectful thread with useful speculation..hopefully bethesda reads this thread because this is what the fans dont want..

For a summary it seems the top 12 deal breakers were
1. requires steam..
2. having and ending that ends the game
3. bad story line
4. COD skrim..( don't worry i think they decided to take out the AK47's :thumbsup:
5. no spellmaking
6. a game that is too buggy and glitzy
7. a game that dosent have rival guilds ( more of a dissapointment than a deal breaker.)
8. No mod support
9. Very short main quest
10. Repeitive quests with no depth
11. Bad innovation in combat system..please no morrowind style :confused:
12. Too big to run on a PC..( this was kind of resolved by discount flunky and gamemastr35)

Thanks again guys :celebration:

Todd suddenly getting hit by a car and Peter Molyneux becoming the project lead. Then we would have hype about you swinging the controller/mouse and your character swings his sword. Or when you speak into your headset the NPCs understand what you're saying.

Edit: I'd probably buy it anyway...

How it works and looks and plays on a PC is the main deal breaker. I want it to be a PC game not a console port. At least make sure the PC version has PC features and not auto-aim or mouse smoothing or anything. Interface on PC is big too. well, I don't want it to be big like it was in oblivion/fallout3/NV. It was hard to see everything.


I have 50+ games on steam and I don't have any problems with it. I think I will buy Skyrim retail though. I will probably get the collectors edition and pdf maps and manuals just aren't the same.

nothing. im gonna pre-order. probly from gamestop because they always offer some special in-game-whatever. roo bad bestbuy doesnt do that... i get a 20% discount there!

Firearms of any kind in the game, draconian DRM, and multiplayer. After that I can't really see much stopping me playing an ES game.

It would be nice to see a multiplayer ES game though now that you mention it

Thankfully this will probably never happen unless Bethesda hits rock bottom. What would follow is inevitable bastardization of their own lore to appease the many thirteen-year-old's that would populate the game.

A few:

1) The price. I'm a PC gamer, there is NO reason I should be paying $60 for a console port. That extra $10 for console games is for Microsoft or Sony, not the developer. If I'm gunna pay that extra $10 it better be a damn good game, and it better look and play very nicely on the PC.

2) Graphics. Yeah, it looks fairly nice in the trailer, but it could be better. If it's going to look the same on all the platforms, that means it's going to be limited by X360 hardware, the weakest and most outdated of all 3. I have a high quality PC, I'd like to take advantage of it in 2011, not look at graphics from like 5 years ago. Whether they release the PC version with higher res textures or release a texture pack (Kinda like BioWare did) after release for free, I'll be happy.

3) DRM. We can do without it. Take us back to the good ol' days where we actually OWNED the game. Steam's great for some things, but if I want my games to require Steam, then I'll buy them on Steam. But if I'm going to buy a physical copy (which I like to do) then I want that CD to actually do something rather than install half of the game (e.g. Homefront).

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If your husband wears a necklace that says "open marriage", that's a dealbreaker.

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Inb4 the limit.

EDIT: On the limit actually =)

EDIT: Or is it? Is the limit 200 posts or 200 replies?