No chance of what? He said it. I wish I could remember where, though. Does anyone passing through here know?

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3986/growing_your_long_tail_hines_on_.php

Wow, you REALLY REALLY want a playable lich, don't you? xD

On topic, I expect them to offer the same DLCs in all plattforms.

If Skyrims DLCs will be like the once in Fallout 3, I'm going to be HUGELY disappointed. But, microsoft makes it's online gamers pay for it, something Sony doesn't. This is the only reason xbox360 has money enough to buy DLCs to it earlier than sony. Way to go microsoft

I hope there are no exclusives either. I saw the reaction on the F:NV forum when Dead Money was announced as an Xbox exclusive - not pretty. :shakehead: As much as I'd like it to be available for all from the start, there's more than likely a huuuge wad of cash involved, and Bethesda is a company, after all.

Well third party mods can't be downloaded for ps3 users so how does that help us?
Please tell me...

Morrowinds official plugins were actually free!

Thats because they are not forced into to deadlines and can constantly make them better.If Bethesda had the time and ability too make thousands of mods I am sure some would be amazing by your standards.

So things like SI and KOTN should be free? You do realize they come up with ideas after release and say "oh damn we should of done this".All DLC is not pure greed, sure ones that are release at the same time as the game can be but then just don't buy them.Maybe some people don't see it the way you do and don't care.They might just want to enjoy the game to the full experience.


Yes I am sure that whole Microsoft Windows thing had nothing to do with it, or the fact that it was once ran by the richest man on Earth.They run a smart business and beat their competitors, where is the shame in that?

+1

Any serious gamer would know that the 360 is the better gaming platform. PS3 has better hardware and that is IT.

If Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas are anything to go by; Skyrim will be 360 exclusive at release.

Being you a "serious gamer".

You know, I'm far too tired of consoles wars. 360 has its good things (Halo, Gears of War...) and PS3 has too (Metal Gear, Killzone).

You know that narrow strip of Morrowind territory east of Skyrim? It would be really good if a point lookout size DLC of that were made.

Plus a Werewolf, Vampire clan conflict DLC, assuming they are both not in the game to start with.

Oblivion isn't a good example. There was no exclusivity there.

It arrived late on the PS3 because the PC and 360 releases were BEFORE the PS3 even released. (OR is someone going to argue the MS paid Sony to delay the PS3? :whistling: )

As for the DLC, apparently there were initial problems with distribution on the PSN and that, along with the later release date probably resulted in Bethesda deciding the moment for releasing the DLC on the PS3 had passed.

So in a sense it was exclusive.

That's heavy speculation and interpretation on your part, and you have not posted a source.



Again, massive speculation on your part.




Speculation and you have no source.



That's an interview with Pete Hines, not Todd Howard, at least check what the name of the person being interviewed is before you claim it's a source for something Todd Howard said. It's also from 2009.

Todd Howard has never said they will not be doing expansions. Furthermore in an interview from 2010 he alluded to that he and his team wants to do higher quality content and put less of it out in terms of extra content for their games. Whether that means big DLC like KotN, The Pitt, Point Lookout and others or expansions like the Shivering Isles, Bloodmoon or Tribunal is up for interpretation, but expansions are NOT out of the picture.

And here's the http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview?page=3.

"We jumped into that like the new frontier. We made some mistakes. Our goal with Oblivion was to do lots of different things. Let's see what people like, what price points they like, and also what works for us, because it takes time."

Interpretation: when making Oblivion's DLC they intentionally made them of varying sizes, prices and quality to see what they were most comfortable making and what sold.

"We felt coming out of Oblivion that Knights of the Nine - that $10 one - was a good sweet spot, not just in terms of what people want to pay, but for us creating it. Whereas Shivering Isles, it's a $30 thing - people bought it, it did great - but it wasn't great in terms of how long it took us to do it and get it out."

Interpretation: after testing the waters with Oblivion's DLC they settled on the size and price of KotN when making DLC for FO3.

"So we went into Fallout 3 with this $10 price at this pace. I can tell you that pace was fast. We had two overlapping DLC groups, tiny groups, and we did that, and the audience, they liked that rate of them coming out but it was hard. I don't know if we're going to be able to do that again."

Interpretation: FO3's DLC was well recieved by the audience, but it was rough on the team and he [Todd Howard] doesn't know if they'll be able to do that [read FO3 sized DLC and at that speed] for future games [read Skyrim].

"I think at the end of the day we just want to have something that is really high quality and maybe not put so many out."

Interpretation: here he might be saying that he'd rather stick with high quality expansions and only have a few of them, or that he'd like to stick with FO3's type of DLC, but fewer than those released for FO3. No way to know 100% for sure.

Skyrim DLC better be PS3 Exlusive. Just to make Microsoft and their users suffer as we PS3 owners still suffer. Thanks to microsoft, my characters have to sleep in a damn bed or slab instead of an awesome deluxe http://legoless.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/lair05.png

Looks like I might be mistaken.


THats always a good attitude.If you want to be angry be angry at Microsoft or Bethesda not people who had nothing to do with it.Fact is though theyare both trying to turn a profit.

It's fair and balanced. We had nothing to do with the money grabbing Microsoft. Now I gotta buy the PC version just to enjoy a vampire lair. Why? Because I can't get it on the PS3. Is that fair? Hardly. But then again, who said life is fair.

Full-blown expansion packs are better than multiple DLC's anyways. With a larger, more immerse, higher quality gameplay factor, you will have reasons to go back and have fun. Horse armor, spell tomes and those other ones for Oblivion were just gimmicks. They didn't add any sort of gameplay enhancement. Shivering Isles brought back the Morrowind-esque feel to Oblivion. You had a great storyline, and it wasn't like a generic medieval fantasy game. It was warped, there were choices. It was just appealing.

No werewolf vs vampire. Vampires hate other vampire clans, no reason to add conflicting Lycanthropes.

The vampire lair is the only reason you'll buy the PC version? Not the huge amount of user-created mods that are better than the official vampire lair? Anyway, exclusive DLC is the biggest joke in the industry today. Almost everything else is tolerable, but the "whoever pays more gets the DLC" thing is just disgusting.

Mods always seemed "fake" to me.

Exactly,thats life.


As for expansions, I would like to see one SI sized one but mostley DLC the size of KOTN.

Woot Horse armour. That's some Microsoft points I'll never get back.

i would like to see aleins or something but ive got a gut feeling that, that doesnt fit the game at all. another dimension or something would be cool