This is exactly how I feel. While DLC can add some stuff that is interesting, they're limited. They never evolve past what they are released as (unless you count fixing bugs as evolving), while a mod can continue to add new features over time. And mods are free

When has Sony ever done this? And no, that's not showing the rest of us respect. If they respected PC/Ps3 customers as much as their 360 customers, they would release content universally and not sell out, like they've done for their past two games.

Oh, and yes, it is 360 exclusive. Us PC players don't get it either. From the Bethblog:






Point Lookout would disagree with you. I lost count of how many times I had to hard reset my Ps3 playing that excuse of a DLC. That was one of the things that influenced my switch to PC for Bethesda's games. (That and mods, of course.)




You've just induced déjà vu. I've had this conversation at least twice now. Yes, I understand that game developers need to pay the bills, just like anyone else. But they're in a bit more of a delicate situation than other professions, as they have a very divided fanbase. When they take part in "trade offs," you're dividing said fanbase even further, and not in a good way.

And, as I've said numerous times, I'm getting Skyrim for PC - not Ps3. I don't care about whether PSN is free or not, in this case.

I like how people are like "This is really stupid raaaaaa, why would bethesda do this?"

But it's Micro$ofts fault.......go take your rage over there.

Oh right, is that why my Fallout 3 PS3 DLC kept freezing, bloating memory files, and revealed plenty of oversights and general crappy quality compared to the 360 version... because the PS3 got the fixed version? :rolleyes: I mean no offense, but that claim is worthless... one hundred percent worthless. There is no silver lining. Bethesda treats non 360 playing fans like crap, again (notice how everything about the game is showed on, optimized for, and made for the 360), and I mean it when I say that's it. That's where I draw the line. This is crap, by principle it's despicable, and in sales and profit for Bethesda, it's at least lost this customer.

OH NO, I'LL HAVE TO WAIT 3 MONTHS FOR HORSE ARMOR, AND MODERATELY WELL-MADE PLAYER HOUSES THAT SPAM MY QUEST LOG!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NO!

Microsoft pay for earlier content... No one can say that Bethesda are un-loyal to their other customers, it's just because people that have Xbox Live have to pay for their online services, PSN, Steam and Google for you crafty ones are all free.

Edit:
Lmfao, c'mon... We all know you're gonna be buying Skyrim the day of release and you know it too... It's not that they have no respect or treat their other customers like crap... It's that Microsoft can afford to pay them for earlier content... Ps3 svcks anyway, lol. That console has so many problems it's just disgraceful.

M$ getting desperate, screwing over other games at any cost.

Valve was right about them.

:rofl:


Skyrim is going through QA at the moment, which means most of the designers and artists are free to work on other projects. They could all be moved to Bethesda's next game, or they could be put on a team working on DLC. However it won't impact Skyrim's content (which is pretty much set in stone at this point) or QA testing (which is handled by other people).

It's also possible that some DLC were planned ahead so hooks could be left in to help them integrate. Morrowind and Fallout 3 were releases without any such hooks and in some cases this made certain DLC rather awkward. Oblivion's hooks had their own problems (doors you couldn't open, roads to no where) but Bethesda has acknowledged these problems and if they try a second time I think they'll do much better.

Why did I switch my preorder for PC. Ugh. I love and hate you microsoft!

He said that cause the TES forum community goes complete ape [censored] on you for posting something old. He was afraid that would happen, even though it said 10 min ago. He was apologizing in advance.

But it's not a question of Microsoft paying for earlier content for Xbox players. It's a question of Microsoft paying Bethesda to delay content for Ps3 and PC players.

That is the problem.

This is insulting to us in the mod community. You want Bethesda to charge you for DLC, when some of us are planning on skipping the game at release to learn the new CS to pump out awesome free content within the first week.

If you're on PS3, then you have my sympathy.



Good,....good,...I like to see money spent on something worthwhile. i.e. extra salaries so we'll have 1000 custom dungeon in TES 6: Nirn.



Theres a good lad.

Exactly. Ever since Microsoft got into the gaming things took a massive nose dive imo. Now PS3 users have to sit in the backseat simply because they are paid to make them.

I'm pissed now.

You clearly didn't play Fallout 3's Ps3 DLC.

LMFAO. Do you honestly think that is what they are doing? You my friend are sadly mistaken.

So whats the truth? Source please

No need for sympathy. I dont like mods. I like staying true to the game. Thats just me. Not everyone likes mods. Your comments are full of PC elitism.

Well, what the hell are they doing then?

It is business. If you are so bent out of shape about it then go to Sony and tell them to do something about it. This is about who can get the upper hand the race of consoles.

Well, I don't usually pass up on opportunities to express my displeasure with consoles and all that, but this time I think I will. As long as no DLCs are console exclusive (uh please no) then I'm okay with not being able to get them on the first day... especially since I've never done that. I'll still have mods anyway, so yay.

I'm still getting it for my ps3

Although i am a pc gamer, i share the same opinion.

PC and PS3 users should get their first DLC for free in return. They evidently don't want our money anyway, so what do they have to lose.

Microsoft freely admits that it pays for exclusive, or timed exclusive, DLC and its a part of their business model.



http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-19-ms-xbox-exclusive-games-dlc-critical