Skyrim DLC to be on Xbox360 first : V - Skyrim

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:49 am

Captain Microsoft: Todd, you will release the first two DLC packs on the xbox 360 and the other platforms will have to wait 30 days.
Todd: Now why would I want to do t-
*Captain Microsoft pulls out wallet*
Todd: $_$ Deal!

30 days seems like a long time, this is ridiculous. :sadvaultboy:

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:48 am

I don't know if Xbox 360 DLC ever go on sale, but one advantage of PC DLC now that Skyrim is going with Steamworks is that Steam tends to offer discounts on DLC as well when a game goes on sale. The New Vegas DLC were 50% off earlier.

Yeah, Microsoft does weekly deals. Sometimes it's just for one game, for instance I got all the Mass Effect 2 DLC pretty cheap when it went on sale, and sometimes it has a theme such as "Zombies." So, a lot of Zombie related stuff on the marketplace will be discounted.

This svcks for my friends who are getting it on PS3. You PC folks have mods to hold yourselves over.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:24 pm

Well, what the hell are they doing then?

They are paying to get it earlier!! What else would the be doing? Lol. Microsoft is full of bloodsvckers and A**holes yes but they aren't that bad. Use your common sense, not the rage from this news.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:45 am

Ah well. As a PC user, I get user made mods first. Console gamers have to wait potentially years for that to happen (at least in an TES game). So it doesn't bug me much.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:08 pm

Todd caved, simple as that. He should have taken a stance like Valve.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:50 am

They are paying to get it earlier!! What else would the be doing? Lol. Microsoft is full of bloodsvckers and A**holes yes but they aren't that bad. Use your common sense, not the rage from this news.

It's a matter of perspective.

Microsoft is paying so that when the DLC is ready, for release across ALL platforms, it will come out on Xbox 30 days. For the other platforms, it's just as ready, but it has to sit there.

Microsoft isn't paying Bethesda to get the 360 version ready first. The DLC will be ready at the same time. Microsoft's payment delays it for PS3 and PC.

That said, I am not angry at Microsoft. It IS a good business move. An effective one? Maybe not so much. But it will certainly help them. There is nothing that will stop me from getting it for my PC, but for the console gamer with a 360 and a PS3, this may well put them on 360.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:20 pm

This svcks for my friends who are getting it on PS3. You PC folks have mods to hold yourselves over.

Mods can't replace an expansion like the shivering isles. Some people want to play The Elder Scrolls, not Nehrim or whatever (as good as those might be). It's just not the same.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:14 pm

You clearly didn't play Fallout 3's Ps3 DLC.

No i did. And he is right. It did svck. Not to the point where it was not playable. I still enjoyed it. But the fact that he brought this up had nothing to do with the other guy's comment, cause first of all, the guy was joking. And i called him a F.A.N.B.O.Y because he got extremely defensive over a joke.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:57 am

No i did. And he is right. It did svck. Not to the point where it was not playable. I still enjoyed it. But the fact that he brought this up had nothing to do with the other guy's comment, cause first of all, the guy was joking. And i called him a F.A.N.B.O.Y because he got extremely defensive over a joke.

I'm not sure what you played, but Point Lookout was broken for me. An average framerate of 7, and crashes whenever the cell changes, are not a joke. $10 down the drain right there.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:40 pm

Ah well. As a PC user, I get user made mods first. Console gamers have to wait potentially years for that to happen (at least in an TES game). So it doesn't bug me much.

PC mods aren't nearly as good as HORSE ARMOR ! :disguise:

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:54 am

[censored] off Bethesda PC and PS3 will be poorly optimized or [censored] ports and now we have to wait longer for DLC too.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:04 pm

Oh well, ain't that just great. :glare:

I'm seriously considering waiting a couple of years before I buy this, so I can it dirt cheap with all DLC. :shrug:

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:05 pm

Double post. ._.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:05 pm

It was this way for Oblivion. It was this way for Fallout:3, it was this way for Fallout:NV....

We are now about 6 years from Oblivion's release and a thread exactly like this, about 4 years from one just like this for FO:3 and only about a year from one like this for FO:NV....

Why are folks surprised now? Personally I will gladly wait so I can play on my platform of choice. I just hope my hubby doesn't spoil them all for me since he will be playing on an Xbox.

But really, I do think it was to be expected. If I were in Bethesda's shoes and was offered a bundle of cash to make something that small a timed exclusive....I would take it. After all, if there was such a deal offered for the entire game, they did not take it. We all get the same game. I can wait for the DLC's since the vanilla as it comes game will keep me more than busy for at least a year.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:04 am

Oh well, ain't that just great. :glare:

I'm seriously considering waiting a couple of years before I buy this, so I can it dirt cheap with all DLC. :shrug:

It's probably the way to go. I mean hey I can buy Dark Souls because it's primarily a PS3 game without worrying that my version is somehow inferior, and just wait until Skyrim is GOTY with 10 DLC's platstered on it.

Great strategy for PS3 gamers who don't like the thought of getting jipped.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:45 am

Microsoft pay for earlier content... No one can say that Bethesda are un-loyal to their other customers, it's just because people that have Xbox Live have to pay for their online services, PSN, Steam and Google for you crafty ones are all free.

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Lmfao, c'mon... We all know you're gonna be buying Skyrim the day of release and you know it too... It's not that they have no respect or treat their other customers like crap... It's that Microsoft can afford to pay them for earlier content... Ps3 svcks anyway, lol. That console has so many problems it's just disgraceful.

You obviously don't know me, at all, then. I will not be purchasing Skyrim the day of release and whether someone wants to believe me or not is of little concern to me, but I refuse to purchase this game on nothing but a handful of insults and bad omens. If Bethesda can display the PS3 version via screenshots and video and I'm happy with what I see, I would consider it, but no, I will not be purchasing Skyrim on day one otherwise and I may very well go entirely without Skyrim, at all... and that's a conclusion I've come to based on a history of Bethesda doing this type of thing. I don't need to deal with it and I won't. Skyrim is a now-wait-for-reviews game, for me, and then only a brand new purchase if the PS3 version is technically sound and healthy... but if there is even so much a shred of a lazy porting job, the only way I'll be purchasing Skyrim is used... and to Bethesda, that may as well be as me not purchasing it at all... and I don't know whether to list reasons why you're wrong or otherwise, but the PS3 doesn't svck or have many problems.

The only problem the PS3 has is the thorn in its side that is developers like Bethesda. This isn't to start a platform war, *platform war material removed by moderator :nono:*

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:13 am

We are now about 6 years from Oblivion's release and a thread exactly like this, about 4 years from one just like this for FO:3 and only about a year from one like this for FO:NV....

I'm surprised that Bethesda hasn't read topics like these and seen the outrage this always causes. Again, I understand that business is business etc., but come on. They claim to treat their customers equally. I'm not surprised that they're doing this, I'm surprised that they haven't learned from their mistakes.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:51 am

Irritating since I play on PS3, but this game will have hundreds of hours of content, so no rush for me, it will also give me a chance to think about if I should buy it or not. But as I said, I hate timed excusives. No matter what its on.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:56 am

You obviously don't know me, at all, then. I will not be purchasing Skyrim the day of release and whether someone wants to believe me or not is of little concern to me, but I refuse to purchase this game on nothing but a handful of insults and bad omens. If Bethesda can display the PS3 version via screenshots and video and I'm happy with what I see, I would consider it, but no, I will not be purchasing Skyrim on day one otherwise and I may very well go entirely without Skyrim, at all... and that's a conclusion I've come to based on a history of Bethesda doing this type of thing. I don't need to deal with it and I won't. Skyrim is a now-wait-for-reviews game, for me, and then only a brand new purchase if the PS3 version is technically sound and healthy... but if there is even so much a shred of a lazy porting job, the only way I'll be purchasing Skyrim is used... and to Bethesda, that may as well be as me not purchasing it at all... and I don't know whether to list reasons why you're wrong or otherwise, but the PS3 doesn't svck or have many problems.

The only problem the PS3 has is the thorn in its side that is developers like Bethesda. This isn't to start a platform war, but the PS3 isn't the platform that has a failure rate of over 50% or has a loose disk drive that practically eats disks. I would like to hear what one of these "problems" that make it svck are because I certainly don't know of them... and that recent hack is no failure of the PS3's nor does it take into consideration that Xbox Live was hacked just as badly a few years ago... but I suppose time erases memories. That has no bearing on my ideology regarding my respect of anyone based on gaming platform as I think no lesser of anyone for playing on any gaming platform nor would I ever wish this porting nonsense and lack of DLC on anyone and it is not blind devotion to state the facts, but I have no false conceptions of any platform's problems or strengths. I think every platform should get all content at the same time and I believe every platform should have a version that's technically sound and well-built for its architecture.

I used to think like that, until i moved to PC gaming and my ps3 turned into a Metal Gear Solid player.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:11 pm

You obviously don't know me, at all, then. I will not be purchasing Skyrim the day of release and whether someone wants to believe me or not is of little concern to me, but I refuse to purchase this game on nothing but a handful of insults and bad omens. If Bethesda can display the PS3 version via screenshots and video and I'm happy with what I see, I would consider it, but no, I will not be purchasing Skyrim on day one otherwise and I may very well go entirely without Skyrim, at all... and that's a conclusion I've come to based on a history of Bethesda doing this type of thing. I don't need to deal with it and I won't. Skyrim is a now-wait-for-reviews game, for me, and then only a brand new purchase if the PS3 version is technically sound and healthy... but if there is even so much a shred of a lazy porting job, the only way I'll be purchasing Skyrim is used... and to Bethesda, that may as well be as me not purchasing it at all... and I don't know whether to list reasons why you're wrong or otherwise, but the PS3 doesn't svck or have many problems.

The only problem the PS3 has is the thorn in its side that is developers like Bethesda. This isn't to start a platform war, but *you did*

Absolutely well spoken. Concur.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:17 am

But then again we 360 users have to pay monthly for exclusiveness, PS3 is free, and I'm not that knowledgeable on PC but i'm pretty sure it depends on the game but i think it is free.

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:38 pm

Oh right, is that why my Fallout 3 PS3 DLC kept freezing, bloating memory files, and revealed plenty of oversights and general crappy quality compared to the 360 version... because the PS3 got the fixed version? :rolleyes: I mean no offense, but that claim is worthless... one hundred percent worthless. There is no silver lining. Bethesda treats non 360 playing fans like crap, again (notice how everything about the game is showed on, optimized for, and made for the 360), and I mean it when I say that's it. That's where I draw the line. This is crap, by principle it's despicable, and in sales and profit for Bethesda, it's at least lost this customer.

Well I haven't played any of the Fallout 3 DLC so unfortunately I wouldn't know, and I agree with what you saying about PS3 and PC users getting shafted, I mean do you know for a fact that it is specifically optimised for an xbox? (I was unaware of this). I don't think it's particularly despicable it's business, could you honestly say to me that if you had made a game and had created some DLC for it that you would turn down a heck of a lot of money for releasing it to another platform before the others? That's money that can be used to help fund the current or next game your due to make, it's not as if we (PS3 and PC users) aren't getting the DLC we just have to be a bit more patient that's all and frankly I don't particularly have an issue with it, I was just trying to be optimistic

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:31 am

/snip

I read your post before Summer cut it to pieces, and I completely agree. But some people just don't listen to the facts.

*pc elitism removed*

» Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:41 pm

I'm surprised that Bethesda hasn't read topics like these and seen the outrage this always causes. Again, I understand that business is business etc., but come on. They claim to treat their customers equally. I'm not surprised that they're doing this, I'm surprised that they haven't learned from their mistakes.

Because everyone goes out and buys their games anyway... Microsoft is giving them cash to delay DLC for everyone else, they pocket that cash, people complain, but they still go out and buy it. It's a win win for Beth who in my book would be no better than activision if it wasn't for the mod tools they give us.

You want to send Beth a message? Do so with your wallet, don't purchase the game.

» Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:37 am

No need for sympathy. I dont like mods. I like staying true to the game. Thats just me. Not everyone likes mods. Your comments are full of PC elitism.

Yet you're posting this in a DLC thread. Most people that play with mods log over 1000 hours of playtime, and its the mods that keep it alive after everyone on consoles has moved on to the next game.

I'd like to point out I have all 3 current gen consoles. Also, if you havent played any TES games on a gaming PC with mods made by good modders, then you're just saying you don't like them because you dont have access.