How do you know if you don't buy them?

/cry That's all I have to say about that.

xbox always gets everything first because theyr greedy. Howeevr, its best for the developers to rty out the new dlc on the worst console, so they can improve it for the others

Fine by me to considering I'm not even buying the game but their whole marketing tactics and their practices with their games and lore pisses me off regardless.

Exactly, that's pre-order content that makes sense and that's okay. The New Vegas in-game pre-order items, which are basically cheat items, are pointless.

I love how there's a little verbal war goin on between 360 and PS3 while all the PC gamers will talk about are mods.

Oh well, might as well contribute

Wooooo! I don't gotta wait for DLC

They hacked Sony because Sony went insane. They wanted the IP address of every person that had ever seen their codes so they could drag them to court even if the person who seen them had never owned a PS3. I'm not saying they deserved what happened to them, but they surely gave people an excuse to do it. After it was all said and done I'm pretty sure it would have been a lot cheaper for Sony to just give everyone OtherOS back.

Are we going to see a clothing/customization pack?
I would love that.


I want stockings, tights, shorts, boots, skirts, dresses... everything.

We get to wait because Microsoft slipped Bethesda some cash for time exclusivity, and Bethesda said Yes we believe this cash is more important that giving other customers content at the same time. Meaning in Bethesda eye's Microsoft's money is more important than PS3 or PC gamers getting content at the same time. Bethesda is really starting to show certain "key values" of how they value their customers lately. To be honest this doesn't effect me as I probably won't buy the dlc until it's all on sale for a game of the year edition or something. I was on the fence, but this kinda secured that choice. Modders will make great content. Still I'm a bit tired of these kinda crappy choices made that devalue consumers lately by certain companies.

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So you can see how Sony works now for their exclusives. I knew they did it, but couldn't remember what they did. Thank you for giving the examples. So now is Microsoft that evil? Sony does it. So what is the excuse now? See people are just complaining on Microsoft because after 15 years it's still the thing to do. Complain how Microsoft is evil, while no one complains about Sony, but they do exactly the same thing.

It's buisness. As FearTheLiving has said, it's what 30 days, maybe 2 months. At least it's not exclusive at all.

As for someone saying Bethesda to show some respect, Bethesda could have made TES games exclusive to the 360 only. That is where they get the most money now, but they still choose to develope for the PC and PS3. Do you not think that Microsoft has asked Bethesda to make TES games Xbox Exclusive?

So to me that that is Bethesda showing respect to is fans and consumers. :tes:

Aww that svcks I hated that Bethesda did that with new vegas D:

No they didn't there's no excuse to hack and who gives a crap what Sony does as long as PSN is free and they don't steal my account money somehow.

How is having more money so they can improve the quality of future content "not caring about their customers"?

Kinda svcks :/

I'm sure I can find 30 days worth of mods, but still; I feel for the PS3 users who get shafted the most. On the plus side, at least bugs will be ironed out and stuff.

Actually that was the excuse the hackers used. Sony gave them that excuse. Sony was trying to censor the internet and for some stupid reason a group of hackers felt it was their duty to stop them. I never said it was a good excuse, just the one they used.

I agree its BS what the hackers did to Sony, I don't agree with what either one of them did. Sony went insane and hackers broke the law and costed them Millions. Maybe Billions. Both parties were wrong in my opinion. Hackers shouldn't have hacked them and Sony shouldn't have tried to sue everyone under the sun.

What annoys me the most is that I will have to dodge every Elder Scrolls information for at least a month to avoid spoilers ...

as long as we get creation kit i dont care

Yeah that's what I was thinking. At least we PC users have mods to hold us over provided they get the CK out by that time which I'm sure they will, but the ps3 users just get a slap in the face again.
Not really surprising though considering they did it with New Vegas too and Todd sure does love his xbox.

If that is how you feel honestly then it's okay. I was just stating my opinion that as a consumer they are taking money over providing us with an equal experience. And in my opinion. (Which is an opinion and cannot be argued, as it is just that an "Opinion" ) They are choosing that over providing an equal experience and in my eyes hurts the value of the company.

I'm not blaming Microsoft or Sony. They both put out money all the time to buy exclusivity. It's good for them. I'm more hurt that Bethesda is taking it instead of providing an equal experience on all platforms. In my eyes as a consumer it devalues the company. They now value money more than fair equality across their consumer base.

First of all. Some mods are making their way to skyrim because they worked so well in Oblivion. Second, they add so much more than the DLC ever did. Have you ever tried Nehrim? It's a completely new game built in a mod. It's not just a cave with a ship and new store owners.

I had mods that fixed the level scaling. I had mods that gave new spell effects and monsters. There are countless weapon and armour mods that are balanced properly and that look better than anything bethesda do. I had a mod that made the trees and grass and sky look beautiful.

Mods aren't just things for show. You can create quests and objectives.

This is why I know mods are better than DLC.

Nothing will make me buy this for my Xbox 360 that sits in a closet never to be used again. I'll wait a year for DLC if I have to. I don't care.

Woot, can't wait to play it on my Xbox :disguise: :foodndrink: :celebration:

It doesn't bother me. (PS3) The game is so big, I won't feel a need for any DLC for a long time. I never buy it when it first comes out anyway. Let them figure the bugs out first.

Whether it's an invalid sense of entitlement or not, this bugs the daylights out of me. I have yet to buy New Vegas DLC because of this. I can speak with my wallet and may boycott this DLC as well. Then again, I've also learned my lesson. Come 4th gen consoles there is NO way Sony will get my money since they refuse to step up and spend a little for their consumers.

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Have you played PS3 Fallout 3 and expansions? They're not any less buggy than other versions of the game, so just because they're coming out later, doesn't mean that they'll be any better polished.