I believe Todd also said they were doing their absolute best to make sure the game looks and performs the same on all platforms.

Yes, both console versions should look very similar, neither has a significant edge on power. However, this time round, the PS3 version should be as good as the 360 version, as adding new features into an engine never designed to support them isn't easy, but running an engine on an architecture it was never designed for is hellish.

I'm sure it will look great on PS3 and run smooth at the same time. Their not using Gamebryo engine for Skyrim. I'm not worried at all about the PS3 version.

I must admit to a tiny amount of apprehension about the quality of the forthcoming PS3 version. However, they've had long enough to get used to programming for the PS3, and that combined with no Gamebryo does make me reasonably confident we'll get a much better game this time around.

Didn't todd allready said that both console version will be exactly the same. I believe he even said they're paying as much attention to the PS3 as the 360.

Tbh, i think that they have already solved this issue.. I mean, we will have to wait to find out..
But with the amount of time that they have put into this game, i am sure they would've solved this potential problem.

I'm expecting the PS3 version to be worse again because of the porting process. I really wish us PS3 gamers didn't have to suffer.

Honestly and even though they themselves haven't had much experience on the PS3 - let id software give 'Skyrim' a looking over.. id has a lot of experience on using OpenGL - which the PS3 uses, compared to DX10/11 on the PC and DX9 on the 360.. couldn't hurt now could it?

To all those who say PS3 had any kind of problems running Oblivion have obviously not played the game. Not once in the past 4 years that I have play Oblivion on PS3 (I do it right now too actually with my newest character), has there been any problems with anything in it. So I don't understand from where you've gotten your idea that PS3 would have problems... (I'm not talking 'bout the OP, he obviously doesn't have that opinion).

I think the PS3 will have no problems at all running Skyrim, because todd specifically said that the current generation consoles can run it. I'm not going start talking about comparison between PS3 and Xbox360, that would only start an unnecessary flamewar, which is totally off-topic too.

But the DLCs are something that bethesda doesn't have 100% to say about, see the Xbox has payed extra for timed exclusives, probably with the money they take from the online gaming fee they have on Xbox360 live.

I agree with this to a point but you can get all the DLC to run flawlessly if you do it before or at around level 9. It has been proven that the bigger the save file in Fallout 3 the more and more framerate, freezing and other issues you start to have. If you can keep the save file under 8MB then the game will run flawlessly with the exception of an occasional freeze. I found Oblivion ran even better on the PS3.....besides the vampire issue the only problems I ever had with it were the occasional freeze. Yes Fallout 3 was still broken and you should not have to limit your play or watch your save file for a game to work correclty.

Since Skyrim is being developed with a new engine hopefully these issues have been fixed. Also, I am sure they have learned from their mistakes with Fallout 3 and are always striving to make a better game.

I've only recently started using the PS3 for Bethesda games. I owned both major consoles but I've recently sold my Xbox 360. I used to use the 360 as my main platform and the PS3 as an exclusives/Blu-ray player. I've bought Oblivion for the PS3 and so far so good. I am aware of the vampire issue, but that's about it. Runs smooth, and plays just as well (if not smoother than) as the 360 version.

I haven't tried the Fallout's (I played them to death on the 360), so I'm not sure of any issues there, however I'm sure Bethesda have built this new engine with all three platforms in mind. I'm certain that Skyrim will be perfectly playable on the PS3 at release.

My only concern is DLC support. We all know Microsoft's selfish nature, and while good from a business sense, it isn't right as a consumer. As far as I'm aware it's only Oblivion that got the complete screw when it comes to DLC. All the Fallout selection is available, just after the 360 by a few months. Honestly that wouldn't bother me. I probably won't have even scratched the game by the time DLC rolls around (I can't play much these days). As long as they are available I'll be happy. Of course simultaneous releases would be preferable.

Oh really, you know me then? I got 'Oblivion' launch week 2007 for the PS3 - I've played that game across multiple save game characters, some of them 1000hrs or more and I've encountered all sorts of glitches, bugs and crashes - you sure you ever played the game on the PS3? To me, it's quite obvious you haven't.. Some "problems" I've encountered..

Cure for Vampirism glitch
Items disappearing from my inventory
multiple game freezes, where you have to hard reset the PS3
numerous crashes to the XMB

When I originally bought the 'Shivering Isles' add on disc - I was unable to use any of my previous save games (over 15 of them and amazingly not one worked) Even when I started a new game, my game character was unable to sit down.. which is a d'oh moment, since to start Shivering Isles you have to sit.

I even bought the 'Oblivion GOTY' too - the cure for vampirism glitch is still present.

So, next time you want make a blanket statement like "To all those who say PS3 had any kind of problems running Oblivion have obviously not played the game." I suggest you check around the forum and see that there are and still are problems with 'Oblivion'..

Well my cousin had Oblivion for his Xbox, It fu**ed his xbox up so bad he had to format the hard drive multiple times. I for one have never played Oblivion on my PS3. So I wouldn't know what glitches/bugs it had. But I would like to try it out on PS3 for myself instead of take someone else word.

Totally agree with this dude played Oblivion today for 2 or three hours , didn't crash once and frame rate was great. Felt like playing a retro game though for some reason.
Tried Fallout 3 (GOTY) and it crashes every 15 mins or so but I try to get through it anyway.(Played this for an hour)
And finally tried New Vegas (I know it isn't BGS but tried it for comparison anyway.)It's great despite some overheating and frame rate issues
Overall Fallout 3 is worst of the 3.
Played them all on PS3 by the way and I had fallout 3 standard edition before GOTY and seem to remember the same problems.
The point of this post was just to try and get an idea of BGS' history on the PS3.
Anyway

1. Dude if you play any game for over 1000hrs you're bounf to find all sorts of bugs and glitches.
2 Vampirism glitch is the only one I have encountered and that glitch is a ******* joke I was so pissed when I discovered that so I feel you're pain there.
Fallout 3 had worse performance though.

Well I never tried to cure myself from vampirism anyway, but I know that glitch, it is however the only one of those 4 "crazy epic bad"-things that have happened to you. All I'm saying is that I've never had problems and that drawing a general conclusion about PS3 version of OB by taking a few examples that have never happened to me in these 4 years is really to false the truth. Bethesda was new to PS3 back then and still did an amazing job, now they know how PS3 works from two previous games and they surely can handle any "problems" that could happen.

Skyrim was not built on the Xbox 360 first. BGS has gone through painstaking efforts to have the same quality for the game on all platforms. While Mr. Howard personally prefers to play on the Xbox 360, that doesn't mean Skyrim will suffer on other platforms.

I believe Todd said it's first developed on the PC/360 simultaneously, and secondly after that the OpenGL renderer is built.

This means very little BTW.

All those problems (aside from from the vampire glitch) will appear on any platform you play Oblivion on. I think both Lord Ragnar and I were mostly referring to the actual visuals and performance of Oblivion on the PS3. As in framerate, texture resolution, load times, world streaming(less "loading now" popping up), etc.

Regardless of that, I'm glad to see so much optimism for the PS3 version of Skyrim! I'm sure that even if there are some noticeable performance issues on the PS3, they won't be enough to hinder the game dramatically. Like I've already stated, I'm sure Bethesda will do everything in their power to not disappoint any of their fans. I can only hope that they use the PS3 version in an upcoming trailer before the games release. That would go a long way in easing my mind as well as most PS3 owning Elder Scrolls fans I'm sure.

Looking at red dead redemptions screenies of PS3 and xbox I couldnt tell the difference but supposedly 360s was better.
In a vid Todd Howard said the only differences cross platform would be in the PCs resolution but if your sat on yours sofa 2-3 meters away from the screen your not gonna see a difference in any platform. I my self will be on the 360 as my comp is knackered low spec and I'd much rather sit back in a comfy chair than bent over a desk and using the 360 controller rather than w,a,s and d.

Well, like I said, I'm not worried about the visuals themselves. The PS3 versions of Bethesda's games have all had great texture resolution for the most part. It's the performance that I'm concerned about. Things like the framerate, load times, etc. can all be optimized for the PS3 given the extra space on Blu Ray and the ability to install parts of the game onto the HDD. I want to share the optimism most people have on these forums, but again, I'd really love to see a trailer of the PS3 version before the games release.

Look at it one way dude. Worst case senario is that Skyrim plays badly on ps3 so you grab a preowned 360 for ￡70 and a new version of the game. Best case senario is it runs sweet!

I'm convinced it will be nice on ps3.

I guess so, haha. I'm sure that even if it doesn't preform as well as I would have liked it will still be playable. I got through Fallout 3 on the PS3 regardless of it's issues.

It's just that I know Bethesda are capable of utilizing the PS3 to it's fullest, so I really hope they do.

I am a PS3 gamer aswell and this issue is kind of offsetting.
As stated by Sorrow, Oblivion did perform better on PS3, But that is because Bethesda had an extra year to optimize its performance for the new platform.
But in all honesty, Todd Howard said that Skyrim has been in the works since Oblivions launch, 5 years ago.....................5 YEARS !
Surely they have noticed that people have been experiencing different kinds of performance on different platforms with Oblivion.
Surely they have anticipated that the same problem will occur with Skyrim and have a solution, For God sake's, they have had 5 long, agonizing years.
So all of us PS3 players, let's not put ourselves down in the dumps about our consoles performance, Be strong and have faith in Bethesda.
They are a well capable company and will bring delight and enjoyment to all platforms.

I suppose we should just believe that Bethesda will do everything in their power to get Skyrim preforming well on all platforms!

Now about that timed DLC... :dry: