Skyrim Features

Post » Tue May 03, 2011 7:26 pm

I've been seeing alot of threads popping up that go something like this "Would you like to see X implemented in the game". Now usually it has an Acompanying poll with a "Do you think this feature should be included?". Please stop making threads with tons of "Suggestions" in them Skyrim is FAR too late in its devolopment cycle to add any new features really. If your going to "Suggest" ideas please just try to think of the following guidelines.


1. Don't make a poll saying "If we want it or not" unless the suggestion is actually debateable.
Almost ALL of us WANT more features and depth in skyrim but its not about what we want its about what bethesda can reasonably do in the time before release.

2. Actually consider how much devolopment time your idea would take to implement, for example i saw someone suggest a stealth system that takes shadows into account and whether the NPC nearby had been poisoned or if he's busy with something. Now while this sounds really cool it would take a VERY long time to implement.


3. Would it seriously Un-Balance the game? For example suggesting there is a spell that makes everyones faces melt off may sound cool but it would likely un-balance combat.


4. Does it fit within the theme and story of Skyrim, for example suggesting that they add guns into Skyrim.


(This thread has TONS of errors and Typo's my apolgies)
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 3:06 am

In what way would that steath system take a long time to implement? Grab the current task, and if it's not idle or travelling to a point, or similar, add a modifier to the detection chance. Similarly, Oblivion /already/ had light-based steath, so why you think that would take additional time to implement I don't know.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 12:57 pm

In what way would that steath system take a long time to implement? Grab the current task, and if it's not idle or travelling to a point, or similar, add a modifier to the detection chance. Similarly, Oblivion /already/ had light-based steath, so why you think that would take additional time to implement I don't know.



Stealth was really a bad example :/. A better example would be the thread with all the Vampirism stuff now will Vampirism most likely be included yes but alot of the were-bear and Werewolf stuff is just really impossible to implement.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 6:07 pm

They can do anything that want with the right talent. They should hire some of the modders from Oblivion,After all they made that game what it is today. But i'm not buying it. Not liking the looks,Gameplay looks clunky,I think they are foucsing more and the dam dragons then anything.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 1:10 am

I've been seeing alot of threads popping up that go something like this "Would you like to see X implemented in the game". Now usually it has an Acompanying poll with a "Do you think this feature should be included?". Please stop making threads with tons of "Suggestions" in them Skyrim is FAR too late in its devolopment cycle to add any new features really. If your going to "Suggest" ideas please just try to think of the following guidelines.


1. Don't make a poll saying "If we want it or not" unless the suggestion is actually debateable.
Almost ALL of us WANT more features and depth in skyrim but its not about what we want its about what bethesda can reasonably do in the time before release.

2. Actually consider how much devolopment time your idea would take to implement, for example i saw someone suggest a stealth system that takes shadows into account and whether the NPC nearby had been poisoned or if he's busy with something. Now while this sounds really cool it would take a VERY long time to implement.


3. Would it seriously Un-Balance the game? For example suggesting there is a spell that makes everyones faces melt off may sound cool but it would likely un-balance combat.


4. Does it fit within the theme and story of Skyrim, for example suggesting that they add guns into Skyrim.


(This thread has TONS of errors and Typo's my apolgies)


Vary well said and i fully agree with you ^_^
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 1:28 am

Of course people are going to make suggestions. it's fun, it creates hype and gets people talking about the game.

who cares if an idea can't be implemented. The fun for people making the suggestion is being creative and discussing the idea.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 6:29 pm

I was under the impression that people posted those threads as a way to pass the time until Skyrim came out... at least, that's the way I've been reading them.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 4:39 am

Stealth was really a bad example :/. A better example would be the thread with all the Vampirism stuff now will Vampirism most likely be included yes but alot of the were-bear and Werewolf stuff is just really impossible to implement.


Last I checked, Bethesda weren't children, and are most certainly better developers than you or I. They can make their own decisions on balance, and game development is what they *do*. They don't do impossible to implement, especially when there's no great difficulty in it.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 10:03 pm

I was under the impression that people posted those threads as a way to pass the time until Skyrim came out... at least, that's the way I've been reading them.


Same for me, I have to agree to its too late for us to really change anything in Skyrim's developement but it's a nice way to pass time to make threads like these. People are only discussing what they would like to see in the game, nothing wrong with that (unless it's about guns)
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 11:14 pm

So considering what stage they are in development?
I dunno, more armors I guess, but that's not really a feature...
Cannibalism! Worked easily enough for Fallout.
And uhm... Boats? Like rowboats?
Aaaand uhm... How about a hand to hand technique that allows us to choke an enemy so it passes out for 4 in game hours?
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 2:57 pm

Last I checked, Bethesda weren't children, and are most certainly better developers than you or I. They can make their own decisions on balance, and game development is what they *do*. They don't do impossible to implement, especially when there's no great difficulty in it.



My point is that the Skyrim forums should be focusing on disecting new information and informed speculation on features that could actually be in the game.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 9:51 pm

first off. people can express what they want, it's just likely these wont be added...the development team already has a plan on what will be in content wise

secondly, there are limits, aside from development time,you know what is actually scripted, and then later on put in by the graphics,sound,animation teams, there is also a limit on what a game engine can do, and EVERY engine that has ever been built for a game has it's limit, also there is bug testing, which usually only fixs some, and even then more coukd happen.

games developers have a limited time period were they can preplan , script, develop do bug tests, and all of these are in phases, once one cycle ends and another begins they can not go back to it, why do think there is often so much cut content ?, because either it could not be fully implemented in time, or did not fit the current game.

just some thing I think people should keep in their minds when saying "why the devs could not add x,y and z" or more annoyingly "the devs have gotten lazy,because you know what they are not, 40 hour a week or more in front of a computer bug testing,coding or model and texture creation is more then I could ever bare.

anyways enough with my tangent, this is a forum and people are aloud to state what they would like in the game,just again remember that

tl:dr the developers made the game and your not :)
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 2:38 am

*Snip*

anyways enough with my tangent, this is a forum and people are aloud to state what they would like in the game,just again remember that
*Snip*




Your right people CAN post whatever they want about skyrim on the forums, but it dosen't mean they SHOULD.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 8:20 pm

Most of the "do you want" threads are just for fun. I think. I don't expect them to implement half the things I say are cool, it would be awesome, but whatever.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 7:14 pm

If any tiny part of any of the suggestions and ideas help a developer reach a conclusion, or give them a tiny bit of idea that might even not be related to the original suggestion, then it was worth the effort.

That's my motto.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 7:09 am

I do get fed up with all the "I want the moon on a stick" type threads.

However, I also get really fed up with patronising threads like this (and there are plenty, you're not saying anything that hasn't been said before), so thank you for taking precious time out of your day to give us the benefit of your mighty wisdom. :shakehead:
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 10:14 pm

Why does it matter? You say this forum should just be for dissecting new information, or speculation; yet that gets old unless we have a new media dump to discuss. Right now you see so many "I'd like x in the game" threads because all of the information available has been discussed and most people have an idea of what we know about the game so far. Most of these things will probably not be implemented, but that doesn't change the fact that it's entertaining to think about them, and I have no doubt that some of these ideas will become very popular mods after the game comes out.

Now don't get me wrong, I've criticized some of the topics I felt were a little out there, but most of them are interesting ideas that -while they might not make it into the game- are still cool to hear out. So get over it.
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Post » Tue May 03, 2011 4:53 pm

More than because of timeline, one just cant add random ideas on a game just because it would be " cool" or " immersive". One has to take into consideration what are your goals with your game. When painting on a canvas you cant just add every " cool" figure or color. It must have cohesiveness and direction.
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Post » Wed May 04, 2011 7:20 am

Most of the "do you want" threads are just for fun. I think. I don't expect them to implement half the things I say are cool, it would be awesome, but whatever.


This. Also, I think it may give the devs ideas what things they should work on and possibly develop in future TES games. Forums like this are a great resource for the dev team as a cross section of what's on their customers minds. As others have said its all for fun and for people to show their excitment for the upcoming game by speculating what is in the game and what they would like to be in the game. To limit the entire forum to discussions only about what has been announced would not be a good idea... the topics would dry up and it would be quite boring. Keep the community talking about the game to increase hype, which increase sales in the long term.
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