I agree, it gives me the same feeling as Morrowind.

There is way to much sheogorath hate in this thread! >:|

You are correct that it is more like Morrowind [than Oblivion]. It's still not very comparable to Morrowind, but they did make a few steps in the right direction post-Oblivion.

skyrim is a lot more fun than morrowind, I dont understand why people always say morrowind is great.

1. morrowind's animations are [censored]
2. morrowind characters are fugly
3. morrowind looked pretty fugly in general considering the massive hardware requirements
4. ashlander speaks broken language, then when you ask him about rumors he suddenly speaks perfectly, wtf?
5. everyone in morrowind has the exact same dialogue choices, see #4
6. lots of useless skills, spear is useless, medium armor is useless, acrobatics is useless.
7. leveling system sux, I have to be careful what skills I use in order to get +5 attribute when I level
8. if your major skill is atheletics, lul.
9. cliffracer, CLIFFFF RACEERRR

All you do is troll these boards. If you don't like the game that's fine, but why come on here and talk about it? You're just here to annoy people.

This thread (and all like it) is a very good illustration of the fact that people have different ideas of what the ideal TES game would be. I have to laugh when I see people pointing to elements of a former game as an example of superior game design, then the next thread has someone pointing to the same thing as an example of inferior game design.

In Morrowind you had to use your brain and figure things out from time to time. In Skyrim you just fallow the arrow and kill things. It takes away any sense of accomplishment when "solving" a quest, it's like winning the Paralympics as a healthy person.

Try turning off quest tracking? :s or if you're really serious about it, turn off the HUD.

Thats easily remedied, by looking at where the general area (if outside) then turning the quest marker off or just outright tutnring it off (in dungeons). I complete some quests this way, rather than "activating" them.

Why not recommend that I close my eye's? Because trying to do quests with no information what so ever comes pretty much down to the same. There is no alternative information available regarding locations of persons or places. Whenever the location you are supposed to go to is around the next corner or at the other end of the map, you'll never know.

I'm not really sure what the point being made is. Because of the music and amount of cross country traveling (which people can skip if they want to) it feels quite different from Morrowind in terms of atmosphere and environment.

It should feel like it is part of the same world as Morrowind because it is - which is does - but it should also feel like its own distinct location with its own culture, people, environment and so forth. Which it also does.

Morrowind had a certain alien feel to it, Skyrim (and Oblivion) are set in human dominated nations and reflect that. If it was real world Morrowind would probably be some place like Australia while Oblivion and Skyrim are more European in feel.

Being able to go a wandering around a large game world, delve into dungeons and so forth is a feature of TES games (which includes Morrowind), not a feature of Morrowind alone.



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As I recall, in the context of what that was referring to, yes, it does. Morrowind had a great sense of place and atmosphere. With as many complaints I have about Skyrim, it's atmosphere is not one of them. They did an absolutely beautiful job creating a sense of place. I might even call it one of their most successful aspects of the game.

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You said Choice, depth and complexity in the same sentance to qualify Skyrim through Morrowind. That was bold, didn't think anyone would dare go this far lol.
Don't get me wrong, i think it is a very very good game, but it is shallow compared to Morrowind in term of "choice", "depth" and "complexity".

It would seem a lot of people disagree with your "you go X, then Y, then fast-travel everywhere" - me, for example. I've never used it a lot (never for main characters) - I liked exploring this world.



Well different cultures can have different approaches to death, how they honor it and how they deal with physical remains. Not every game needs to make tombs seem like places of respect.

No. Aside from a few Dwemer ruins and giant mushrooms, Skyrim really lacks a lot of what made Morrowind so special.

Morrowind had quest directions, Skyrim doesn't. I don't know what you were enjoying so much in Morrowind more than the sense of exploration and journey that comes from having to actually experience the world.

nostalgia is nice, buy skyrim is a much better game all the way around. its gonna easily secure itself as the best elder scrolls game to date. its way better than oblivion or morrowind. in so many areas.

I was thinking about the comment that Morrowind would be like Australia while Cyrodiil and Skyrim are more like Europe, and I think that's right. Specifically, Vvardenfell is like Australia in that it is a giant island. It makes sense that it would have crazy animals not seen anywhere else. So I suppose I shouldn't want Skryim to be as exotic as Morrowind. However, it does remind me of my first thought when I first heard about Skyrim: They just did a Eurocentric, LotR like game, why are they doing another one? I would rather have seen Elsweyr or Black Marsh. Some place more exotic than Cyrodiil. So, to sum it up, the team did a great job creating Skyrim, but I think a more exotic locale would have been a more fitting follow up to Oblivion.

If anything Skyrim is more like Fallout than any TES game.

I think Bethesda said to hell with intellectual engrossing RPGs, lets hop on the Gears of War/FPS derp derp crowd.

You know Skyrim dungeons have puzzles to solve?

Morrowind doesn't.

Which game needs you to use your brain?

Other than the music and the nod to the Dwemer, skyrim feels very different. I do feel a little nostalgic because of the way many of the mines are designed. It's familiar as an elderscrolls game without being a rehashing of things from an old game.

Now if we could only get the people who inhabit the world to show an awareness of the changes we bring about while we adventure I'd be happy. It seems like no matter what we do it's like our only contribution is to put the riff raff into their graves. At least in Oblivion I was the hero of Kvatch.

I disagree.

My reason why is in another thread. The (paraphrasing the title) "Why are there so many differing opinions on Skyrim" thread.

The political climate and all the shades of a gray colored rainbow are very reminiscent of Morrowind. Oblivion lacked all this; it was bland, uninteresting, and, while still a good game for it's game play, lacked everything I felt that made the Elder Scrolls series great.

I don't have time for elitism and nostalgia. Skyrim (10 million copies) outsold Morrowind (4 million), so it is clear that TES attracted a lot more players who seem to like Skyrim for what it is.

I think it is a mixture of Daggerfall and Oblivion rather than Morrowind.