Skyrim for the New Generation

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:21 am

What a terrible poll. The only two options are "Yea I love blood swearing and gore in EVERYTHING" basically, and the other is "yea I dont like swearing" well guess what, I dont mind swearing, and I dont see swearing as a bad thing at ALL. That said, I don't want modern swear words in Skyrim because it doesn't fit with the setting... But a fitting amount of blood and gore sure, but ofc not at a fallout level. People are SO [censored] over sensitive about swear words; Tthey're WORDS, they cannot harm you or anyone else.... *breathes out*... okay just had to rant a bit..

Also they need to bring back skooma addicts
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:36 pm

Language is just words

And video game nudity is just pixels...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:26 pm

battles back then were filled with impalements, dismemberments and decapitations. It's unrealistic to swing a sword at someone and they just fall down.
That being said, I don't want gore just for the sake of gore, and I trust Bethesda will find the appropriate amount of it to include.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:35 pm

In Oblivion there wasn't anything even close to that. There's no way that Cyrodill has no criminal organizations outside of the thieve's guild and dark brotherhood. I just don't buy that.

You are wrong.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Skooma_Den
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Raid_on_Greyland

Just off the top of my head. There are also several people throughout Cyrodiil that have skooma packed away in their basemants.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:27 pm

You are wrong.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Skooma_Den
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Raid_on_Greyland

Just off the top of my head. There are also several people throughout Cyrodiil that have skooma packed away in their basemants.


All of which supports, not disputes, the quote which you insist is wrong. :blink: The poster was claiming there's no way the Thieves' Guild and Dark Brotherhood were the only criminal activity, and that there was Skooma trafficking.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:45 pm

Skyrim is the land of the nords, a grim and rugged land and people. They share many similarities with Vikings, and what did vikings do? Pillage, murder, [censored], and annihilate other cultures, and even clans amongst themselves. Swearing wasn't present in Oblivion, and I don't think it'll will be very present if at all in Skyrim, but decapitations are in, I guess you'll have to wait for a mod to turn of finishing moves or at least decaps.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:54 pm

"Those who would trade their freedom for protection, deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin.

Cussing in war games, like Call of Duty and Metal Gear Solid, are perfectly fine. I don't think our arsenal of swear words
Spoiler
(Except Ass and Damn)
, are used in that universe because they have no meaning. They come from English lower classmen in the early 1900's who just "made up" the words.

Violence is entirely different. I think they will stay true to the TES roots by just throwing in what they think will make a great game and see what ESRB has to say about that. Fallout was a different matter, and it was a successful game.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:37 pm

And video game nudity is just pixels...


Nudity doesn't offend me. Gore does offend me though so I'll take it that way.

There is a big difference though. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. I'm not saying I think they should add profanity, but it would not bug me. I think world themed expletives would fit better than the F bomb etc.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:37 am

Swearing's great. I love swearing. Angry people swear all the time in rl, it's realistic.

It's just that I'd rather hear "N'wah!" than "Bastard!" any day.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:19 am

All of which supports, not disputes, the quote which you insist is wrong. :blink: The poster was claiming there's no way the Thieves' Guild and Dark Brotherhood were the only criminal activity, and that there was Skooma trafficking.

Oh, I think I see what he was trying to say.

Well yeah, obviously skooma was a drug. It was illegal and there were signs of that all over the place.

Sorry :shifty:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:06 pm

I Hate Swearing and i Hate Decapitating with Blood Spewing everywhere, so why have these to make the Game More Popular.

Look at Crysis, theres not that much Blood and No Gore, but they do say Allot of F.U here and there in witch it sets me Off.

Half Life 2 + Eps. Yea theres the Blood Splatter, but theres No Swearing at all and No Decapitating aswell, now i would go for Skyrim to be like that anyday.

I like gore and swearing because they are something natural and it's stupid to not include them in a game that wants to be believable.
Gore/nudity/swearing/violence ftw!
Still, they are not the reason why I play Skyrim.
They are just cream on the cake.
Anti-gore/nudity/swearing/violence people are not living in right world, but in an imaginary land if you ask me and are kinda... sissies. >.>

Also, your poll svcks.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:02 pm

Blood for the Blood God, it would be stupid not to have it.


As for swearing? I can't recall a single instance of real world curse words in previous TES games (please enlighten me :)).

Hm... well they said "bastard" a few times in Oblivion. That's very minor though, and whether or not it's considered a proper curse word depends on where you live and your cultural upbringing.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:31 am

And video game nudity is just pixels...

I don't understand why nudity is such a taboo in video games right now. Usually when it does exist it's just blatantly explicit and has no actual point other than shock value (which I personally think is just stupid and immature), or there isn't any at all. It seems like no devs feel comfortable putting nudity in their games unless they're just going for shock value. I just don't understand why no one can seem to use it in an appropriate fashion in their game that isn't just immature.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:56 pm

I like gore and swearing because they are something natural and it's stupid to not include them in a game that wants to be believable.
Gore/nudity/swearing/violence ftw!
Still, they are not the reason why I play Skyrim.
They are just cream on the cake.
Anti-gore/nudity/swearing/violence people are not living in right world, but in an imaginary land if you ask me and are kinda... sissies. >.>

Also, your poll svcks.

I hate to break it to you, but it's a game and not real life. I don't like seeing gore. I think it's offensive and gruesome. It's only one step below graphic torture to me. I hate it. That doesn't make me a "sissy" it simply means I disagree with you. If you want to see gore so be it, but if you want to say that everyone should either have to see it or not play the game, you need to learn to be less egocentric to be frank. (And yes the poll is too biased.)

I don't understand why nudity is such a taboo in video games right now. Usually when it does exist it's just blatantly explicit and has no actual point other than shock value (which I personally think is just stupid and immature), or there isn't any at all. It seems like no devs feel comfortable putting nudity in their games unless they're just going for shock value. I just don't understand why no one can seem to use it in an appropriate fashion in their game that isn't just immature.

Edit: In retrospect my post was way too political. I edited it to try and be a tad more neutral.
Nudity is such a taboo (in the USA at least) due to some of its founders being puritans who escaped the prosecution in Europe, and to some extent these puritan values have persisted. There's a lot of political conflict regarding to what extent religion should influence the government.

I for one value freedom, and that means I value freedom for people that aren't like me as well as freedom for things I personally hate. I may hate gore but I will defend the right for companies to make gory games or movies as much as anything I like. Freedom is too precious to throw away.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:01 pm

Swearing's great. I love swearing. Angry people swear all the time in rl, it's realistic.

It's just that I'd rather hear "N'wah!" than "Bastard!" any day.

True.
Swearing is one of the ways to let that negative energy out of you.
Still, words like bastard, crap, damn, ass and similar should be in, but F-word and S-word should be replaced with their fantasy alternatives.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:51 am

I would go with native swearing (fantasy curses, like N'wah and Swit) and blood is ok so long as it's there as it's supposed to be, not mortal kombat 1 style with Gallons of blood comming out for a slash that takes out 1/20th of your health.

Or like fallout. I don't care how much radiation you soaked up. a pistol will not take your head off like that. that was just stupid. blood can be used for accentuating drama, but I just hope they don't pull another "See? We can do gore!" and allow us to slice someone crown to rump with an iron dagger.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:08 pm

I want to see blood and limbs all over the place after I go on a chopping spree. If I hit something in the neck with a big axe, that head needs to go flying and there should be blood spraying all over the place.

I like me some gore.

Swearing and cursing? Don't need it in a fantasy game. Fantasy games and swearing (for me) just don't seem to mix. If I'm playing something with *guns* then, for some reason, I want a whole [censored]load of swearing and cursing. But not in a fantasy game. :shrug:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:57 pm

I hate to break it to you, but it's a game and not real life. I don't like seeing gore. I think it's offensive and gruesome. It's only one step below graphic torture to me. I hate it. That doesn't make me a "sissy" it simply means I disagree with you. If you want to see gore so be it, but if you want to say that everyone should either have to see it or not play the game, you need to learn to be less egocentric to be frank. (And yes the poll is too biased.)

I hate to break it to you also, but this is game that wants to make things believable and leaving out the gore is not going to help that.
Still, I don't mind having blood options for people who wear skirts.
Also, I think it's kinda hypocritical (not to mention dumb) to be OK with stabbing your enemy in the neck and killing him as long as there is no blood.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:01 pm

True.
Swearing is one of the ways to let that negative energy out of you.
Still, words like bastard, crap, damn, ass and similar should be in, but F-word and S-word should be replaced with their fantasy alternatives.

I read something that said swear words were better relievers of negative feeling when they are used rarely. I think it was because it becomes something you don't do, or you're not supposed to, and then you break the rules and it is releasing in that way.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:44 pm

A smattering of blood is ok along with the odd curse here and there, Skyrim is not a 'Medieval Battlefield Simulation'. I'm buying this game for the quality of the storyline, quests, graphics and animation. not quantity of blood and body parts.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:49 am

I hate to break it to you, but it's a game and not real life. I don't like seeing gore. I think it's offensive and gruesome. It's only one step below graphic torture to me. I hate it. That doesn't make me a "sissy" it simply means I disagree with you. If you want to see gore so be it, but if you want to say that everyone should either have to see it or not play the game, you need to learn to be less egocentric to be frank. (And yes the poll is too biased.)


Nudity is such a taboo because of the theocratic movement in the USA (Think of the children!!!). I was shocked to learn that in some European countries there are no laws at all barring children from media with nudity. People that want puritanical laws don't want you to know that though... it goes against the fabricated reality they've built for themselves where nudity turns people into crazed immoral monsters with no self control.

I need to stop before I get too political. :)

I for one value freedom, and that means I value freedom for people that aren't like me as well as freedom for things I personally hate. I may hate gore but I will defend the right for companies to make gory games or movies as much as anything I like. Freedom is too precious to throw away.

*political text removed :nono: we don't allow political discussion here.*
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:41 am

I am all for blood and violence but cursing just ruins the whole immersive experience. That is one reason I never could play Red Dead......you really expect me to believe they used the F word way back then........it just really ruins the game if it does not belong.


Yea, they did... alot. Ever read the notes from a old legislative conference.

Also WAAAY back then was right before/during WWI
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:44 pm

A smattering of blood is ok along with the odd curse here and there, Skyrim is not a 'Medieval Battlefield Simulation'. I'm buying this game for the quality of the storyline, quests, graphics and animation. not quantity of blood and body parts.
My sentement exactly ;)
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:20 am

No over the top blood splatter and over the top gore are fine. A little swearing here and there are fine. Too much of either and I'd get put off.

Take Bad Company for example, the first game had no swearing at all if I recall, Bad Company 2 turned into a minefield of cusses. I always thought the lack of swearing in Bad Company was charming and added to the comical and less serious feel of the game.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:14 am

Theirs no middle to this vote.... I want swearing and want lots of gore (like cutting off someones arm with a Samurai Sword) and brief nudity.... But no swearing in places where it's not needed.
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