Skyrim game is weird, not bugged...

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:32 pm

The Elder Scrolls Games always start the same way, you are an unfortunate idiot that got himself caught for whatever the reason there may be, and you are either released or escape from imprisonment.
What sort of magick does Bethesda try to complete with this arduous ritual is beyond me, only they will ever know it, it's pretty simple to start as a prisoner of sorts, as you try to have a new life forgetting about the past and toughen up. Early in the game does one find out he is SPECIAL in some way. I really wish Bethesda worked harder to make up some teary story about me being kidnapped by trolls or ogres, and saved from being eaten by some foolhardy mage or noble knight and raised in some arts or the others (I remember creating a character in Daggerfall included making up a history for yourself by answering basic and advanced questions, that way you make a history and you can still change your class or make your own) but Bethesda knows better as we are all born into advlthood without knowing what is what.

As far as Skyrim goes I don't even know why I was arrested and imprisoned, while that much was hinted in Morrowind.

The next thing you find out is how to easily get ignored by a dragon, avoiding being seen while it eats and glomps other people.

What Bethesda does know how to make is Graphics, just like Square-Enix, Bethesda knows well how to abuse your hardware.

As far as skills and equipment go Elder Scrolls get less and less of those. Bethesda allows for modding, but that shouldn't be the base for their less and less competence in equipment making.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1826/tesv2011111516164910.png
are you SURE you want to make an item ?

Hard to believe that ES lost it's trademark, the SpellCrafting. Although I can accept this as not allowing players to create overkill spells, however that was still depending on the players ability on surviving the game (providing the player did not cheat) which really had no real impact on the gameplay other than making it actually harder for them as enemy scaling is still the reason why players actually did it.
Reason is, the scaling enemies would just replace weaker bandit making the combat actually painful for a player and not their character.

One of the better equipment aspects in TES games was enchanting practically everything with nearly any spell, but since Morrowind we cannot even enchant capes and cloaks because they were taken away from us. This is actually very sad because I really liked expensive clothes in Morrowind nad wearing a Cape in Skyrim would actually make sense, but we don't know better, Bethesda does!

But since I talk about equipment, spells and enchanting why not just remove the Enchanting ability from players if you are going to restrict it as much as you did in this game ? That would even make sense, let us search the Skyrim for any and all enchanted equipment so that we won't cheat the game by exploiting possibilities. It's easier to remove something rather than find a solution. Yes you Damned Assassins, i'm talking about you and your abuse in Oblivion with the Chameleon Spell enchant that made you 100% undetectable allowing you to back stab pretty much everything.
Solution to that would be allowing only Jewelry to be enchanted with that spell, instead of just removing the enchant and spell altogether, just as it was done in Oblivion however with the Levitation Spell, the only solution Bethesda accepts is their decision, no matter how silly it is.

As much as Enchanting is done nicely in the game, nice doesn't mean good. I like the idea of disenchanting items to learn the effects, but this is working wrong. Effects on Items that are stronger than the ones you learned should be Disenchant-able to increase the base effect the player can use. For instance a basic shield enchant to resist fire magic by 15% that with the use of higher ability and better soul gems will increase up to 25% and wearing items that improve enchanting can even let the player to make up to as high as ... 32%. However using this on many items would make you immune to fire it just is not possible because you can only enchant boots and shield with resistance, and if you are lucky ... no, you can only resist enchant boots and shield :) Tough Luck to you nabs :)

The enchanting calculation is wicked sick as well, although you have an armor-type enchant you can't use that type of enchant on every piece of armor, which is simply STUPID.

Blacksmithing is also very weird, I am on skill level 100 which was incredibly stupidly to obtain, all you need is travel a bit, mine some ore, smelt it and hammer away. If you are skilled enough you can make a lot of money and travel a lot you can make Daedric Armor quite quickly and early. It's even easier than in Oblivion, and that means something.

Bethesda made a great effort for the Exploration to be fun and enjoyable, and while that works it's still flawed as hell.
The MAP is great indeed and that works well, but I am not being able to identify a generally hostile MOB until it's hostile towards the player. But the Exploration is not really hard, just flawed. Even as I play on Hard it's still much too easy to do things.

And as much as I like the graphics in this game, it's hard to say it's actually working right, which isn't.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9936/tesv2011112916110379.jpg
Ever lost your head to Daedric Helmet ?


http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5008/tesv2011120113393083.jpg
My head doesn't like me, but it also doesn't leave me alone :(


Well I did, 3 times now. It's been a long time since I had to forget achievements because the game is unplayable without using the command console, even with the patches, or should I say, especially thanks to the patches. but that is not the only Exploration problem I encountered.
The quest that you have to go to Solutude and Speak with the Daedric Prince responsible for madness, which is pretty fun tbh, but after finishing the quest I learned that I have leveled up, checked my skills tab and to my shock all my skills have been RESET to base level for level 1 character. The Perks remained, but everything else was gone.

Collecting Shouts is always great, until you find duplicates. So far I found 4 Frost Breath words, and 4 Whirlwind words.

I most likely should that Bethesda for even making this game, but why should I bother ?
It would be better not to release a dupe instead of releasing it, making a forum for it, and locking every rant thread there is created.

I would like Bethesda to do something. Of course expecting an aswer is impossible, I would sooner be banned from the Bethesda forums (not the first time btw). What I would like for Bethesda to do is ask themselves something:
1- Why do you make games that everyone hates you for ?
2- Why do you break the games you release ?
3- Why do you fix things that don't need to be fixed ? (please, leave that for Blizzard and their World of Warcraft)
4- Is creating a game that actually doesn't break become really that hard ? or are you so incompetent and instead you prefer to make great graphics ?
5- Why is Japanese Voice-over better than English ? (don't answer, I know better than you ever will.)

So to make it final note:
Great Idea for Game.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:53 am

*moderator note: Don't call other member kids or accuse them of illegal activity lest you be warned*

OP - you realize Skyrim is going to be Game of the Year, right? Yes, EVEN with the messed up patch.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:30 am

OP has VERY valid points, the game is dumbed down but what we need is for people to get over it and bethesda to say their next tes title to be better.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:56 am

I stopped reading at "why Bethesda should quit game making ..."
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Matthew Aaron Evans
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:30 am

And this is why you shouldn't post when you're high, kids...

OP - you realize Skyrim is going to be Game of the Year, right? Yes, EVEN with the messed up patch.



I laughed so hard when I read your comment b/c the whole time I was reading I was thinking "Is this guy high?"

LMAO.... comes across as a Japanese kid running a high with a need to say "mine's bigger than yours'

Sheesh.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:01 am

You actually expected a TES game for both PC and Consoles, which is an FPS, to NOT be dumbed down ?
I didn't use the most obvious points.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:49 am

What do you expect? Dumbing things down will open your game to a wider audience, and will earn them more money and possibly more sales on future DLC and game releases. Plenty of games do it today because of how popular gaming has become. It is where the money is and you can not fault anyone for doing what is good for there business. Yes, Bethesda have once again released a glitchy game, but with a game this size it is impossible to test everything in every way possible and have someone play it properly for 30 hours straight to see how it performs on each console.

I personally, like I did with Oblivion, have enjoyed it. Even with a glitch popping up every now and then (which was WAY more frequent for me in Oblivion.)

EDIT: Also with the opening story, it allows you to develop your own character, and make reason for you being captured at (insert location here.) It allows you to make your character and give it a back story. It allows you to play your own role.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:01 pm

I've only had one bug so far, I'm lvl 37

Game looks fantasic and play smooth on my PC

Yes it is dumbed down for consoles

Were you high?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:42 am

I don't even play it much as an "FPS" myself. I'm in third person a lot. The closest [action] game it feels like to me is Red Dead Redemption.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:09 am

Yawn. Another hardcoe gamer blaming Bethesda for not making the perfect game for them.

1- Why do you make games that everyone hates you for ?


The forum is a great place to provide criticism and hope that Bethesda listens in the next TES. But if you hate Bethesda for making such a crappy game, then don't buy it - don't play it - just move on.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:06 pm

OP has a couple of valid points buried in there, but is otherwise off his rocker.
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Stacey Mason
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:09 pm

Why is there so many stupid people flocking here? <_<
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steve brewin
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:36 am

So....
Players prefer a good selling product instead of a game ?

If you are a gamer and you truly believe that... you're no longer a gamer.
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Claire Jackson
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:16 pm

I stopped reading at "why Bethesda should quit game making ..."


Same for me.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:59 am

LOL

this made me crack up.

especially the last part.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:43 am

Same for me.

If you don't read, why post ?
Post Count ?
Or you need your E-Peen support ?
Don't post if you have no opinion to share.
Wipe that drool off your mouth already.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:38 am

OP,

the impression I got from that wall is that you are part of that small percentage of people who Dislike the game because it is not an extreme hardcoe JRPG built solely for the PCs.
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Mark
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:17 am

Pie
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Darrell Fawcett
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:13 pm

OP, just go away. Please.
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Lou
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:27 am

I really do enjoy pie! :banana:
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Lisa
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:04 pm

Why do you make games that everyone hates you for ?



Eh? If that was the case... then Skyrim would not be a top selling game bought by old TES fans and newcomers alike.
This does not compute :blink:


As far as saying they should not make games, speak for yourself. I`ve enjoyed over 140+ hours in Skyrim, no problems apart from a texture glitch once. For me, thats been outstanding value for money.

Should add, been playing TES since Arena, before some herp derp says "It`s for teh casual gamers" :rolleyes:
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:02 am

OP,

the impression I got from that wall is that you are part of that small percentage of people who Dislike the game because it is not an extreme hardcoe JRPG built solely for the PCs.

No.
I'm from the even smaller percentage that care about enjoying a game that poses a challenge.

I paid a nice sum of money, for open beta, because that is the only way to explain this game. If a company as strong and powerful like Bethesda releases a glitchy and bugged like hell game that was NOT fully tested and demands money for it, DLC should be completely free.

You do NOT get what you pay for.
Oblivion was buggy, but this is BETA !
You people don't understand the damage caused !

And it's not only Bethesda doing stuff like that, but I will only focus on Skyrim here.

I feel the most pity for people that defend game developers like that, they had a LOT of time for testing, but they decided to make a console game and simply port it without testing how it will work out.
How much longer will you people remain ignorant of that ?
If those companies spent as much effort in testing and improving the game as much they put into marketing and greasing this game could have been a real gem.
It's ironically but the only thing that is remarkable in modern games is graphics, which is why a lot of people started to go back to Old games, they don't have good graphics, but they have that what people loved them for.

@JohnyRock30
Make me.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:17 am

Bethesda decieves their customers. They lied a lot before about Oblivion before it got released. Casual gamers are lured to the game like carps. This game will be GOTY and it doesn't matter if customers don't like it.

I totally understand you my friend. I don't like being decieved too.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:53 am

this thread is weird
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:52 pm

you still did not deny my point.

face it OP you are just mad because you were not given top priority like you PC elitists always expect.

if its nothing more than a port in your eyes, than go fix it like you all always say you are going to have to do, otherwise stop crying on the forums.
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