Skyrim a Generation ahead on PCs?

Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:51 am

I'm sure it will look better on a high-end PC, but probably not "next-gen". I built my PC myself over Christmas for about $700 (ordered all parts from Newegg) and I can run all the newest games at highest settings. If I were to order the PC already assembled from Dell or Alienware or something, it would have cost over $1500. Considering the PS3 was $600 at launch, I think getting a high-end PC is a better investment.

You can't really compare console pricing to the price of a pre-built PC. Consoles are regularly sold at a loss, so that $600 was for hardware that cost Sony significantly more than $600 to put into their machine.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:52 am

And look at the difference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHh8D3AzZaU Note: xbox360 does not have DX11 tesselation.



I would say that there is definitely 100% tessellation in Skyrim then have you seen the screenshot of that mountain - it looks like a real mountain, exactly like one.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:25 am

Here's my reason. One, excluding $20 HDMI cords, everything came with my PS3 for $300. Two, I am not going to attempt to build a PC, if that's where this is going, and I only buy 2-3 new PS3 games a year, on average. I'm not going to save any money by going for a PC and I don't think it's worth it when I get full support for an entire console generation with just my PS3.


And I get full support for 20 years of PC games, plus every console game pre-last generation, as well as GC/Wii games (And possibly PS2, though I'm not sure how emulation of that is coming along), at higher resolutions and settings than even current generation consoles can do - and I only paid 1/3rd more than a PS3.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:54 am

I would say that there is definitely 100% tessellation in Skyrim then have you seen the screenshot of that mountain - it looks like a real mountain, exactly like one.

1) Not really, no. Real mountains look more... realistic than that.

2) You can't really tell if something supports hardware tessellation from a screenshot.

3) The screenshots seem to be from the 360 version of the game, and the 360 doesn't support hardware tessellation.

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And I get full support for 20 years of PC games

Your post lost pretty much all credibility the moment you said this.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:21 am

Howso? Because old games can be fun too? It's 2011, 20 years ago was 1991, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:1991_video_games, and while I doubt any of them would run on a modern OS, we have more than enough power to emulate an environment for them to run. It's a valid statement.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:51 am

Most likely a little the medium improvement, it doesn't really bother me.. I think it looks fine


The thing is here that you haven't really seen the graphics. If you look at a pic of Crysis from game informer and compare it to Skyrim's screenshot in game informer, Skyrim looks better. HD looks better when it is bigger. Condensing a screen shot into a smaller picture eliminates the detail. I mean Crysis looks like Oblivion in it's small pic.

1) Not really, no. Real mountains look more... realistic than that.

2) You can't really tell if something supports hardware tessellation from a screenshot.

3) The screenshots seem to be from the 360 version of the game, and the 360 doesn't support hardware tessellation.



1) Like you said, you can't tell from a low res screenshot

2) Your right.

3) I also think it is from the 360 version because I can see the low AA on the edges of the characters.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:08 pm

Taking into account the sheer number of mods developed for the previous Elder Scrolls releases, I'm fairly certain there will be a Construction Set and a large number of excellent mods created for Skyrim within a short time after release.

After finally trying a heavily modded version of Oblivion on my laptop and having an amazing experience, I would hate to be permanently stuck with the vanilla console version. If anyone is considering upgrading their PC with a decent graphics card in order to handle Skyrim, this would be a great excuse.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:14 pm

It won't be anywhere near a generation ahead of the console version. No game out there that is both on consoles and PC has a PC version that looks dramatically better despite this gen being five years old now.

You will obviously be able to play in 1920x1200 with max AA and all that, but generations are defined by having higher polygon character models, more detailed environments, larger textures and new graphical effects such as HDR, dynamic shadows, tesselation and so on, stuff that really makes a difference.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:54 pm

It's ambiguous because all we've seen are console screenshots. Where's my displacement maps, SSAO, and motion blur man?
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:33 am

My computer runs at 2.4ghz, and the speed to run Oblivion at max is 3ghz, so I hope that I can run Skyrim.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:33 am

Based on what I've seen in the screenshots from Game Informer I don't think PC is going to look that much next gen. It all looked pretty normal to me. Nothing the current generation consoles can't pull off.

Also, I don't think Bethesda has better textures for the pc version, it's just not their style. They'll give everyone the same package. Better textures; that's up to us, the community :)
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:58 am

Should PC's graphics look much better than consoles? Of course.

Will they? :snort: Not until the modders pick up where Bethesda leaves off, as usual.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:14 am

It will be Next Gen because in honesty the only games to look as good as it are probably well, nothing except for the crysis photo real maps and I actually think the screens look better than those even though they are low res. Um, why can we choose both in this poll?
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:21 am

It will be Next Gen because in honesty the only games to look as good as it are probably well, nothing except for the crysis photo real maps and I actually think the screens look better than those even though they are low res. Um, why can we choose both in this poll?


As much as it looks great, I'd have to disagree. They are low-res scans to some extent, but its apparent that some of the textures aren't super high res, and the vertices are pretty obvious on the closer-up meshes. Maybe they were taken from a console version? :/
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:04 am

As much as it looks great, I'd have to disagree. They are low-res scans to some extent, but its apparent that some of the textures aren't super high res, and the vertices are pretty obvious on the closer-up meshes. Maybe they were taken from a console version? :/

I think you don't realize what a low rez texture is, everything is looking great to me.
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