Skyrim is so Lord of the Rings : V - Skyrim

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:55 am

Not really. Ones Earth, the others Nirn. ES even goes out of its way to differentiate itself from typical, or Tolkien fantasy.

Modern fantasy wouldn't exist without Tolkien. It doesn't matter what his inspiration was.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:51 am

a few bits and bobs. no, shame in that.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:36 am

Modern fantasy wouldn't exist without Tolkien.

lolwut

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:31 pm

No Skyrim is Skyrim.

Todd has said it NUMEROUS times, that one of the main great inspirations of TES, is the Lord of the Rings series.

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:47 pm

Todd has said it NUMEROUS times, that one of the main great inspirations of TES, is the Lord of the Rings series.

I would want Julian Lefay to say that.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:07 pm

I see the similarities with oblivion and LoTR but not so much skyrim though your probably right, i haven't seen much skyrim artwork tbh.

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:49 pm

Both Tolkien and Skyrim are largely inspired by Norse and Anglo-Saxon culture, which is why there are some similarities. Both are using the same source material.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:24 pm

Modern fantasy wouldn't exist without Tolkien. It doesn't matter what his inspiration was.

We dont know that. Tolkien wasn't the first to write fantasy books in the same vein as LOTR. Not even sure what your post has to do with mine?

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:58 pm

Just a little Off-topicness, is there even More Extended Scenes with the Ultimate Blu Ray DVD's of LOTR :huh:

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:44 am

Just a little Off-topicness, is there even More Extended Scenes with the Ultimate Blu Ray DVD's of LOTR :huh:

Yeah, the Books.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:52 am

You mean they took the Books and torn out the Pages, shuffle them up and turned what they want into the Movies.

But onto the Serious Question please

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:03 am

People give Tolkien way too much credit. C.S. Lewis was writing the Narnia books at roughly the same time, and Disney was putting out movies like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella not long after. Fantasy would have done just fine without Tolkien. He made a significant contribution, but it wasn't indispensable.

By the way, the movies ruined dwarves by turning them into a joke.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:48 am

Just a little Off-topicness, is there even More Extended Scenes with the Ultimate Blu Ray DVD's of LOTR :huh:

Yes. I think you can find them on most video sites and rentals.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:14 am

You mean they took the Books and torn out the Pages, shuffle them up and turned what they want into the Movies.

But onto the Serious Question please

I was serious though. thats the only place your going to find any expansion on the story that you couldn't get from the movies. Im surprised how much they messed up the Saruman story line in the movies.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:41 am

I started to read the Books and couldent believe how they rearranged the Set Pieces of the Books in the Movies.

Peter Jackson did say that there was even More Extended Deleted Scenes he wanted to put into the LOTR Movies, thus i expected the Blu Ray DVD's

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:58 pm

Apart from naming that has evolved a bit since LOTR which was more or a literal discription of the place in the name "Mount Doom" a mountine of doom :biggrin:

I hope you're kidding! Tolkien had like 3 different names for everything, sometimes more, in different made up languages and all sorts. He wrote it so different cultures called it different things... Mount Doom / The Mountain Of Fire was the closest english translation used by the main, more relatable characters ( hobbits ) because of their culture, and I suppose that stuck for the movie because it's 'catchy'. I'm not trying to be a whiny [censored] about it, I just don't think it's fair to imply that Tolkien, of all people, put little thought into his naming conventions...

Oh, and Morrowind's main volcano, Dagoth-Ur, was called 'Red Mountain'

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:52 pm

Tolkien hardly made his stuff out of whole cloth. Very little of his setting was truly new, it was rehashed celtic and norse/germanic myths and legends.

His real achievement was the Silmarillion and the languages he developed, not LotR.

Ha! And Skyrim isn't rehashed Greek/Roman in addition to Norse mythology??
We owe a great deal to Tolkien for setting the fantasy world in motion, even if many of the details were there.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:21 am

Every modern fantasy book or game or movie is based on Tolkien. So is Skyrim.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:15 am

God its like people believe that medieval fantasy genre was created by tolkien. I wonder if any fantasy story ever existed beforehand.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:22 am

Every modern fantasy book or game or movie is based on Tolkien. So is Skyrim.

...No they're not. again, Tolkien didnt create fantasy. Nor do all fantasy IPs resemble the 'high fantasy' (even though you could argue LoTR is low fantasy) Tolkien style.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:45 am

Every modern fantasy book or game or movie is based on Tolkien. So is Skyrim.

Disney, Robert E. Howard and CS Lewis beg to differ.

Narnia
Snow White
Conan the Barbarian
Sleeping Beauty
Cinderella

None of these owed Tolkien's books a durned thing. The ONLY thing you could say is that since Lewis was a friend of Tolkien's that they might have inspired each other through conversation.

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:07 am

Every modern fantasy book or game or movie is based on Tolkien. So is Skyrim.

No its not at all just because something has a thing in it that's similar to something else does not make it the same...

» Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:54 am

I think its simply untrue to say Tolkien invented fantasy or even pioneered it, and yes a lot of his ideas were based on established concepts, but I think we should give a great deal of credit to him for helping make the genre as popular as it is today.

Both the hobbit and the lord of the rings have each sold over a hundred million copies, making them two of the top four selling books of all time.

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:25 pm

No Skyrim is Skyrim.

well skyrim is skyrim indeed but ..... lord of the rings yes and no its skyrim . and period

» Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:32 pm

I wouldn't say that every modern fantasy story is based off of Tolkien's stories, but to say he has had no influence on fantasies such as Elder Scrolls would be very far off. Orcs and hobbits were created directly by Tolkien, and Dunmer and Altmer could be contributed to Norse mythology. Hobbits could be taken as Bosmer, if you're feeling imaginative. With LOTR's popularity, fantasy games like Elder Scrolls are able to gain such attention and popularity, and without LOTR's existence, there would be a huge decrease in games, movies, and books that revolve around a Middle-earth esque setting.