Skyrim map discussion

Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:27 pm

What location is at the most north western area where its blue on the map?


Hard to tell, the map gets very distorted that far northwest. I'd bet its one of the two remaining unnamed holds, but I can't make out its name and there's no prior references to it anywhere.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:51 pm

It was actualy previsible that the border of skyrims would not change because in some quest in oblivion they were saying that it was hard to keep a territory past the natural borders that surround skyrims because it would be hard to keep communication. on the other hand it also acts as a defence because its hard to attack through the mountains. skyrim borders are the less likely to move in any circumstances


I think Bruma would not be so bad, as they could have voluntarily repatriated back to skyrim, since they are still easily protected by the mts and almost have a total Indigenous Nord population and are so close to the skyrim border
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:13 pm

I figured out the 5 "Massive Cities." As well as labeling the other cities. Some of them had their names changed it seems.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3503/maplabels.png
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:26 pm

I figured out the 5 "Massive Cities." As well as labeling the other cities. Some of them had their names changed it seems.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3503/maplabels.png

So whiterun is a city what is winterun? Does that say "the reach" on the western part?
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:04 am

impossible to say how large the game map is without a scale. what units are we working in on that map?
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:40 am

It looks like Skyrim's map is just a little bit bigger then the size of Oblivions map. Its at least 20 % Larger but then again we still have 10 months to go so they could make some changes. The reason why I say it's 20 % Larger is Skyrims map is as close to a square/circle type of map as you can get. Oblivions map wasn't a complete square/Circle, the southern part of the map was partially blocked off (Not the Khajitt's fault by any means). Also the Northwest part was taken up by Hammerfell/Skyrim. Skyrim's map is pretty Square like. Water to the north, High Rock and Hammerfell, to the west, Cryodill to the South and what's left of Morrowind off to the east.

Also I like where Throat is located just south of center
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:28 pm

I figured out the 5 "Massive Cities." As well as labeling the other cities. Some of them had their names changed it seems.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3503/maplabels.png


Falkreath can't be one of the five major cities as it's labeled on the map in small text. The fifth major city has to be Winterhold.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:42 pm

Additional map breakdown stuff.

According to the Pocket Guide to the Empire, Skyrim is traditionally divided into nine "Holds." Of these, the Guide only identifies five: Eastmarch, Winterhold, Rift, The Pale, and The Reach.

The northern and eastern holds (the Guide calls them as "northern and western," but this doesn't match up with the actual geography and is probably a typo) are collectively known as the Old Holds. The Old Holds are dominated by Nords, are the bastions of Nord traditions, and are ruled by hereditary aristocracy. The Old Holds are as follows:

- Eastmarch. On the Skyrim map, Eastmarch is in the central east of Skyrim and is described as "Volcanic tundra." Its only important city is Windhelm.
- Winterhold. On the Skyrim map, Winterhold consists of the northern coast. There are two important cities in Winterhold: its capital, the city of Winterhold, and the city of Dawnstar.
- Rift: On the Skyrim map, Rift consists of the southeast of Skyrim, and is described as "Fall Forest." Its only important city is Riften.
- The Pale: On the Skyrim map, The Pale is a valley in central Skyrim, and is described as "Snow." It doesn't seem to have any large settlements.

The remaining holds are apparently more Empire-friendly, and are governed by elected councils called Moots. So far, I've only been able to identify two of these on the map:

- The Reach: On the Skyrim map, The Reach is in the far west. The Guide describes it as consisting of "canyons and mesas." It is apparently the most cosmopolitan hold. It doesn't seem to have any large settlements.
- Falkreath Hold: On the Skyrim map, Falkreath Hold is in the southwest. It presumably contains the city of Falkreath.

It looks like the three remaining Holds consist of the plains in central Skyrim, containing Whiterun and Markarth Side, the small area between the central mountains and the river delta, and the northwest corner around Solitude, but I can't make out their names or descriptions.


Thanks for the informative post :)
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:36 pm

Falkreath can't be one of the five major cities as it's labeled on the map in small text. The fifth major city has to be Winterhold.

I am grouping them by how many cells they cover. Winter Hold covers 4 cells. Falkreath covers 9.
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:43 am

You can see winterhold on this one, but it appears to be a small city or a fortress, not one of the large cities.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3843352/Skyrim%20Map%20on%20Wall.jpg

under windhelm says ___ ___ of divine birth?
maybe where we start out this game?
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:17 am

I bet we start in Riften. I mean...look at the place. Right near the conjuncture of Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim. Out of all the major cities it looks like the smallest. It's also kind of snuggled away in its own little cubby hole with only two routes out: west and north. One takes you through a Cyrodiil-esqe Autumn forest, the other through Morrowind-esqe Volcanic Tundra. Reminds me of Pallet Town. A little. :tongue:
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:52 am

Solitude, Windhelm, Whiterun, and Riften seem to definitely be major cities. The other is likely either Dawnstar or Winterhold, but we can't see because their labels are off camera.
A third seems to be named "The Pale," but it's difficult to make out.

1. Where did you see Solitude?
2. I can see clearly that it is "The Pak". I could understand mis-reading it as Pale though. The second image posted lets you see it better.

I also see that there is a "Tundra" region west of Whiterun and possibly a "Tundra Marsh" north of that.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:43 pm

Where is riverwood and is riften a city surrounded by water? It looks like its completely surrounded by water?
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:03 pm

If you look on page 56 of the GI article, I'm pretty sure the city in the concept art is Riften. Not only is it the only city on the map that is so directly on the water like that, the island with a bridge matches the Skyrim map having an island near it too. Looks awesome and I can't wait to explore it.

And beyond riften, there in the distance, lie the hills of Morrowind...
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:04 pm

1. Where did you see Solitude?
2. I can see clearly that it is "The Pak". I could understand mis-reading it as Pale though. The second image posted lets you see it better.

I also see that there is a "Tundra" region west of Whiterun and possibly a "Tundra Marsh" north of that.


1. Solitude is in the northwest. The whole name is difficult to make out but the S is pretty obvious.

2. I thought it was "The Pak" at first, too, but eventually I realized the L and E were bleeding into each other. It helps that "The Pale" has already been established as a region in Skyrim.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:41 pm

It looks to me like Riften is a harbor city at the end of that river there. [img]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2858/skyrimmap.png[/img]
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:28 pm

1. Where did you see Solitude?
2. I can see clearly that it is "The Pak". I could understand mis-reading it as Pale though. The second image posted lets you see it better.

I also see that there is a "Tundra" region west of Whiterun and possibly a "Tundra Marsh" north of that.


Looks like the Pale to me. Would also make more sense. What's a pak? Doesn't even sound Skyrimish.

I sure hope there's a tundra marsh. I want to do some Beowulf style swamp diving.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:17 pm

If you look on page 56 of the GI article, I'm pretty sure the city in the concept art is Riften. Not only is it the only city on the map that is so directly on the water like that, the island with a bridge matches the Skyrim map having an island near it too. Looks awesome and I can't wait to explore it.

And beyond riften, there in the distance, lie the hills of Morrowind...


Yeah, it does look like that. Lying right back at the rivers edge with the hole between the mountains either side! Maybe some really clever person could work out the size of the map from that screen...
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:23 pm

Yeah, it does look like that. Lying right back at the rivers edge with the hole between the mountains either side! Maybe some really clever person could work out the size of the map from that screen...


It's concept art so no :(

Also I've updated the first post with some of the stuff from this thread :3.

Hopefully one of the GI Hub updates will be a pocket guide for the fourth era though... ;_;
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:00 am

Yeah, it does look like that. Lying right back at the rivers edge with the hole between the mountains either side! Maybe some really clever person could work out the size of the map from that screen...



you are right I'd be very interested in someone trying to figure that out, I mean I just ran through some possible equations in my head but someone smart enough could do this!!!
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:40 pm

It's concept art so no :(


Well, that's true, but there's a reasonable chance the design would carry through to the final (especially since they put it in the GI issue about the game at it;s current (late) stage) so if we worked it out, there'd probably be an okay chance of it carrying through.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:40 pm

This is what the Northern Hemisphere of the Earth is going to look like in about 1000 years...
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:12 pm

Well, that's true, but there's a reasonable chance the design would carry through to the final (especially since they put it in the GI issue about the game at it;s current (late) stage) so if we worked it out, there'd probably be an okay chance of it carrying through.


Concept art doesn't really have much to do with the actual scale of the game though. If I was drawing concept art of Skyrim I'd draw it to scale, meaning it would look like this huge landscape with hundreds if not thousands of miles of tundra. The actual game will probably only be a few miles, so measuring concept art would be completely meaningless.
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Post » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:30 am

Yes! Saarthal! Just east of Winterhold. I predict some epic ruins there.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:27 pm

Additional map breakdown stuff.

According to the Pocket Guide to the Empire, Skyrim is traditionally divided into nine "Holds." Of these, the Guide only identifies five: Eastmarch, Winterhold, Rift, The Pale, and The Reach.

The northern and eastern holds (the Guide calls them as "northern and western," but this doesn't match up with the actual geography and is probably a typo) are collectively known as the Old Holds. The Old Holds are dominated by Nords, are the bastions of Nord traditions, and are ruled by hereditary aristocracy. The Old Holds are as follows:

- Eastmarch. On the Skyrim map, Eastmarch is in the central east of Skyrim and is described as "Volcanic tundra." Its only important city is Windhelm.
- Winterhold. On the Skyrim map, Winterhold consists of the northern coast. There are two important cities in Winterhold: its capital, the city of Winterhold, and the city of Dawnstar.
- Rift: On the Skyrim map, Rift consists of the southeast of Skyrim, and is described as "Fall Forest." Its only important city is Riften.
- The Pale: On the Skyrim map, The Pale is a valley in central Skyrim, and is described as "Snow." It doesn't seem to have any large settlements.

The remaining holds are apparently more Empire-friendly, and are governed by elected councils called Moots. So far, I've only been able to identify two of these on the map:

- The Reach: On the Skyrim map, The Reach is in the far west. The Guide describes it as consisting of "canyons and mesas." It is apparently the most cosmopolitan hold. It doesn't seem to have any large settlements.
- Falkreath Hold: On the Skyrim map, Falkreath Hold is in the southwest. It presumably contains the city of Falkreath.

It looks like the three remaining Holds consist of the plains in central Skyrim, containing Whiterun and Markarth Side, the small area between the central mountains and the river delta, and the northwest corner around Solitude, but I can't make out their names or descriptions.


I edited a map to show the Holds of Skyrim:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/509/skyrimholds.jpg

I typed the names over where the map appears to name the holds. Also traced out the dotted lines that appear to mark the holds. Ignore the "Shor's S..." That was just done for personal reference and I didn't mean to include it in the upload...
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