Skyrim Map : V - Skyrim

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:18 am

Well a lot of "College Towns" are small. I lived in Utica, NY which is a very small city and there is a Community College, a SUNY college, a college that is part of Syracuse University and Hamilton College is one town over.

You can fit a lot of college in a small city.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:48 am

Perhaps... Still... I was imagining Winterhold as a massive sprawling maritime metropolis warring and feuding against Solitude... <_<

Solitude better be mahoosive to make for it.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:05 am

Apparently I'm the only one who can see it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12965950/Winterhold.jpg

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:03 am

Apparently I'm the only one who can see it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12965950/Winterhold.jpg

Since all the other cities' outlines are drawn, where is it?

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:15 pm

Apparently I'm the only one who can see it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12965950/Winterhold.jpg

That's the region, not the actual city.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3503/maplabels.png

Here's the best labeled map someone made. You can see where Winterhold city is. Looks like more stuff here then in Oblivion.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:52 pm

That's the region, not the actual city.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3503/maplabels.png

Here's the best labeled map someone made. You can see where Winterhold city is. Looks like more stuff here then in Oblivion.

Eh is it me or is that invisible on MCJ's map? :blink: :wacko:

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:29 am

Since all the other cities' outlines are drawn, where is it?

Only 4 cities have drawn outlines. Like the person who made the map in my previous post, I don't think they're necessarily the biggest ones either. Simply the ones who's designs were completed earlier.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:22 am

Only 4 cities have drawn outlines. Like the person who made the map in my previous post, I don't think they're necessarily the biggest ones either. Simply the ones who's designs were completed earlier.

Yes, but the actual city of Winterhold IS on the map you posted, while it isn't on the other one. Do you see what I mean? It really isn't there!

Edit: Wait... After standing up and looking at it from another corner, I can see a faint outline. So I was mistaken.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:41 am

Yes, but the actual city of Winterhold IS on the map you posted, while it isn't on the other one. Do you see what I mean? It really isn't there!

Edit: Wait... After standing up and looking at it from another corner, I can see a faint outline. So I was mistaken.

I think theyplayed around with the saturation, contrast or whatever to make things more visible.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:41 am

The green areas, could that be the snow areas, all aound the borders?

also they talked about different 'unique' landscapes, what would these be?
Riften area (forests),
The Pale (snowy landscape),
Vulcanic Tundra (marches, likely mammouths!)
The rocky canyone area (left side of the map)
The coastal icy area (at Winterhold)

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:00 am

Hi , here is a map comparison of the actual video map and an old compilation I did of the political view of Skyrim long ago by using all possible known official fonts of maps of skyrim area that where available at the time , may be this could help to figure out what the other faded out names could be ....

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6396/skyrimpromethusmap.jpg

plus here is my attempt to make a skyrim map long ago at the time of morrowind modding , may be someone will like to see....

http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/g/maps/map_mw_sk_east.jpg

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:48 pm

I wish there was some way one could clear up the map key on the bottom left.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:43 pm

I wish there was some way one could clear up the map key on the bottom left.

Enhance!

Not sure if anyone has made sense of 'the Greater' yet, but the text it points to (also scrawled onto the board) seems to say

something-El something, OR DIVINE BIRTH

Caps are just because it's written in caps on the board. Is '-El' an important status, or god-like thing in TES? Auri-El rings a bell, though I could be making that up. Not hot on my TES lore.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:51 am

Auri-El is the Aldmeri term for Akatosh, a.k.a. Alduin.

So yes, that could be pretty important.

*Scours the wiki* Here we are:

" El - A title used to show holy/important significance, and/or god-like status (Used in a name, like a compound word, except that the "El" is separated by a hyphen. The El can be used as a prefix, or a sufix, but it must always be hyphenated, and the "E" must always be a capital.)"

It's an elven word, though, definitely not a Nord one.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:35 pm

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8469/skyrimmapwinterhold.jpg

Might be possible.. but I think it's not finished yet...

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:25 am

Hmm, by counting the number of pixels inside the Skyrim borders and dividing that by 11x11 pixels for one cell (if the squares on the map are indeed cells), I get around 3900 cells.
Might be interesting to compare this to Morrowind and Oblivion, although we don't know if the cells are actually comparable.

hmmm well morrowind had somewhere around 1500-1800 exterior cells (I'm leaning towards 1557, but don't shoot me if I am wrong) so thats more than twice it's size if it's comparable.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:32 am

Well there are supposed to be five massive cities...
I see Riften, Solitude, Whiterun, Windhelm, and...

DAWNSTAR!!!!

I am in the process of touching up the photo. After I work a bit of magic, I will show and explain my findings.

edit: Dawnstar and Winterhold do not appear to be major cities. Also, not sure if this has been mentioned, but Winterhold and Whiterun are not in the positions from last era maps. They have moved in the 200 year gap.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:10 am

Found this after some googleing

As we can read in the Construction-Set's help-file:

"Each exterior cell is 8192 units by 8192 units or 385 feet by 385 feet."

The world map can display a square from -29/+29 (upper left) to +25/-25
(lower right) when you include cell 0/0, you'll get 55*55 cells

Vvardenfell spans from -16 to +20 in X-direction
and from -16 to +23 in Y-direction that's about 37*40 cells
(with still a lot of water included)

Sorry, have to calculate in metric values

385 feet = 117 meters

54*117 = 6.32 kilometers (3.92 miles)

37*117 = 4.33 km (2.69 miles)

40*117 = 4.68 km (2.91 miles)

Morrowind's World-Map can display 6.32*6.32 = 40 square-kilometers,
and that's 15.4 square-miles unless my conversion metric<->imperial is wrong.

Vvardenfell itself is about 20 square-kilometers (7.8 square-miles)

So "Oblivion's size" as described by gamesas, will be about as large
as Morrowind's World-Map, and about twice the size of Vvardenfell.

So based on this if Fearabbit is correct in saying:

Hmm, by counting the number of pixels inside the Skyrim borders and dividing that by 11x11 pixels for one cell (if the squares on the map are indeed cells), I get around 3900 cells.
Might be interesting to compare this to Morrowind and Oblivion, although we don't know if the cells are actually comparable.

The world map can be calculated to being over 53 000 square km or over 33 000 square miles.

This would make the map slightly larger than LotR Online and about half the size of Daggerfall.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:30 pm

It might explain why there are so many cities in Skyrim compared to Oblivion.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:31 am

Found this after some googleing

So based on this if Fearabbit is correct in saying:

The world map can be calculated to being over 53 000 square km or over 33 000 square miles.

This would make the map slightly larger than LotR Online and about half the size of Daggerfall.

Ehh, no way it will be that large.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:05 am

Ehh, no way it will be that large.

That's what I thought too, but really it depends on scaling.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:22 pm

Found this after some googleing

So based on this if Fearabbit is correct in saying:

The world map can be calculated to being over 53 000 square km or over 33 000 square miles.

This would make the map slightly larger than LotR Online and about half the size of Daggerfall.

whoa that's a bit big!

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:25 am

The 33,000 is probably the real size of Skyrim but not the game map's size. The Map for Skyrim is probably just a little bit bigger then Oblivion's map about 20% Larger.

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:00 am

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1943/skyrimmapsimple.png

» Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:45 am

what i want to know is what the legend (key) says.