Not trying to start a consoles war,...... but the fact of the matter is that it is nearly true,........... most websites that talk about pc verses consoles will admit that the pc is in decline in a big way when it comes to being the focus for game designers because most people with pc's do not or cannot (in their mindset anyway) keep up with hardware upgrades and try to use pc mainly for like facebook/yearbook/porm and work/school/music/movies related applications and less for your average videogame, the one area this does not apply to is the mmo gamer, this is also true in my home, I will use the pc for mmo games (swg/conan/lotr/ect,...) and my xbox for other games, my ps3 which I hate as a game system btw is used for watching blueray movies and getting netfliks on my big screen in the living room, I will not allow my precious xbox360 be used by the average caveman living in my house,... also every1 wants to use the pc for whatever silly reason so it would be near impossible to get time to play on my pc if I did use it for video games,.... and most homes still dont have multiples of pc in them no matter what the stats say ( statistics say most homes have like 2-3 pc in them this is a gross overstatement from them mainly polling the very rich evidently)

I recall reading somewere that Fallout NV sold less than(or was it around?) 20% of total sales. Pete also agreed with Todd about the numbers.

@Enossirq, Look at current multi platform games for the best indicators, using OB is silly regardless of whather its part of the series or not. Back then there was no PS3 release. So of course OB would have a higher %. And the 360 install base was much less than what it is now, there is no point bringing up OB too much has changed.

FNV wound be the closest we are going to get to the open world rpg crowd that likes Beth games(like me), then you can look at other multiplatform rpgs,etc

Its unbelievable the amount of BS you have -> as I already pointed out MODS ALREADY WORK ON THE CONSOLES hell I have a custom altered MMM, Quarls Textures, My own Akatosh Mount and about 50 other mods running right now on my PS3 Oblivion and they run without a SINGLE ISSUE -> what part of this is difficult for you to understand ?!? Mods already work with very little effort to get them to work its like I already said you need an IQ above r3tarded to get them working which seems lacking around here...

I could say things like that and say thats whats going on; BUT what would be convincing is video proof. I'm calling epic BS on quarls since the mods are made for the pc version which is coded entirely differently and uses DX9 not OpenGL 2.0 tell me how your magically able to do that? Also were do you find the vram for quarls texture pack. Also were did you install a mod manager to manage mod conflicts. Honestly all one needs is one mod with to much stuff in one cell and system failure.



Heh?!?, what part of they both use the same files is hard for you to understand, the only people losing out would be the consolers would not be able to use any mods that require a 3rd part tool like the XXSE's other then that there is no difference.
And the modders who make those mods since they will get downvoted, also there will be far far less of those mods expecially if modders start getting money intensives to sale mods on the consoles, IF THAT happens quality will drop by extremes.



The consoles lack the required runtimes/dll's for the CK to run it has nothing to do with being lazy, it just will not work period.
And they lack the required Ram and GPU/cpu power as well, primarily vram.


Again mods would be DLed from a Beth run site not going through PSN or MS so it would not matter a damn what PSN/MS want as it would cost them zero bandwidth.

This would have to at some point go through XBOXlive/psn and if it doesnt thats a HUGE security loophole.

And trying to barter with Beth give me something and you can give my PC mods to consolers is not going to work because you have NOTHING to bargain with as the CK/Modding Tools are not yours to trade as the ability to mod their games is fully in their hands and they will do with it as they like.

For legal reasons i do believe Bethesda cannot sell modders works without there permission, I'm not bartering I'm pointing out that if bethesda profits from PC modders doing a good amount of hard work they should therefore reward the PC community with DX11 shaders.

Not trying to start a consoles war,...... but the fact of the matter is that it is nearly true,........... most websites that talk about pc verses consoles will admit that the pc is in decline in a big way when it comes to being the focus for game designers because most people with pc's do not or cannot (in their mindset anyway) keep up with hardware upgrades and try to use pc mainly for like facebook/yearbook/porm and work/school/music/movies related applications and less for your average videogame, the one area this does not apply to is the mmo gamer, this is also true in my home, I will use the pc for mmo games (swg/conan/lotr/ect,...) and my xbox for other games, my ps3 which I hate as a game system btw is used for watching blueray movies and getting netfliks on my big screen in the living room, I will not allow my precious xbox360 be used by the average caveman living in my house,... also every1 wants to use the pc for whatever silly reason so it would be near impossible to get time to play on my pc if I did use it for video games,.... and most homes still dont have multiples of pc in them no matter what the stats say ( statistics say most homes have like 2-3 pc in them this is a gross overstatement from them mainly polling the very rich evidently)

FO3 and Oblivion, Bethesda's last two developed games, are each well above the 10% mark for sales. Probably 20-30% when you include Digital.

Anything else is irrelevant.

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Sorry OB is not relevent to the discussion. It was only release for PC and 360, that right there makes it not relevent. 2nd it was released in 2006, 5 years ago the install base for the current console was much smaller. Of course pc sale % would be higher. I don't understand how you can overlook these things. FO3 on the other hand is relevant because it was release for all 3 systems, and the system were no longer new and had a wider install base. FNV on the other hand is even more relevant though as it was the most recent open world rpg released by Beth(yes I know Obsidian did the dev work, but FNV has so much in common with FO3 its basically a Beth/Obsidian co production).

Your also going by a 2006 title the more recent Fallouts would be a much better indicator.