On these forums, I've seen many complaints about Skyrim's myriad of features. I just want to list some of the major issues I've seen brought up, and compare them to the major issues Morrowind had when it came out (and still has today). I'm comparing only VANILLA games here to be fair.

Skyrim:
Game is too easy if exploiting smithing and enchanting
Marriage is shallow and not all can marry
Dragons can become kind of annoying after fighting a lot
Monsters are leveled to a degree
Companion AI can be weak at times
Quests are pretty linear
UI svcks on PC
Main storyline is pretty short
Mountains have some invisible barriers
Most dungeons are pretty linear
Map markers exist for most quests
Radiant Story quests are kind of bland
Civil war storyline is kind of weak
Some minor floating bugs and texture issues for a few when installing game


Morrowind:
Terrible textures
Terrible animations
No NPC schedules
Copy/pasted dialogue on about 90% of NPCs
Annyoing as hell cliff racers
Few quests
Boring quests
Linear quests
Terrible combat
Bad magic effects
No built-in house ownership
No werewolves or lycanthropy
No marriage
No real mountains
Bad level scaling, game becomes simple after level 15
Powergaming exploits all over
No birds
No fish
No mounts
No snow or any dynamic weather effects
No dynamic speed tree technology
No dragons
Extremely simple NPC/monster AI
Small amount of books/notes
LOTS of identical looking external towns and villages (same textures, etc)
No dynamic traps
No companions
Small world
No radiant story quests
No radiant AI
No civil war story feature
Main story-line is pretty boring and can be super short if desired
UI svcks on consoles and is cluttered on PC
Lots of bugs, broken quests
Dungeons are static with lots of reused textures and conventions
A hold-your-hand journal with all the details given which can't be disabled
Some location markers appear on map after talking to NPCs which can't be disabled
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I just have to say, those people complaining about Skyrim's new and innovative features never even had such features, period, in Morrowind. They may not be 100% fleshed out and working perfectly, but that doesn't warrant the angry level of complaints against them. When I eat at a buffet with only meatloaf, I don't complain when sirloin steak, turkey and ham is brought out even if it is a little rare, dry, or unsalted. I greatly appreciate that I have them in the first place.

Other than the free-form skill system and simplified weapon categories, I believe vanilla Skyrim is better in every way over vanilla Morrowind. Even WITH all the expansions, fixes and mods for Morrowind, I still think Skyrim edges it (barely). With upcoming mods, fixes, DLC and expansions for Skyrim, I believe it will beat Morrowind in every possible way.

6/10

I was tempted to bite.

Disregarding your troll-list of 'facts', the cited statement is true in my opinion

U MAD BRO? :blink:

This can only end well.

Other than the 4 troll comments above, anyone agree/disagree with the post?

Nothing good will come of this.

Edit: I'll try to contribute. In my opinion, objective differences (graphics, mechanics, etc.) don't total up to the same gaming experience for everyone. Your negative may be someone's positive and so on.

Most of these are just ridicilous.

Morrowind has more quests than Skyrim.
Many of Skyrim's quests are linear too.
You can become a werewolf if you got the Bloodmoon expansion pack. Becoming a werewolf actually is more like a curse. You are forced into killing someone each night and transformation is unavodiable.
No marriage. True, it was all I wanted...
No real mountain? We got a volcanic mountain in the center.
There is no level scaling in Morrowind.
Powergaming exploits Skyrim as well
No dragons? You really don't know anything about TES lore.
No mounts. They aren't much useful in Skyrim since you got fast travel.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Books This list isn't enough for you?
UI is worse in Skyrim.
There is no civil war story feature because, there is no civil war
Skyrim has more bugs than Morrowind
A hold-your-hand journal is in Skyrim not Morrowind. There is a freakin' map marker.

Your trolling failed.

Other than more than half of your negatives about Morrowind are factually incorrect?

I only see one troll comment above, the OP.

I don't think I agree with that list (I don't think it's fair to negatively critique Morrowind for not having things that gaming technology didn't allow it to have, and wasn't even introduced until 5 to 10 years later, depending on the game), but I do think I agree with the overall sentiment that Skyrim is better than Morrowind.

Not by much, but I do think Skyrim is the better game in the end.

Morrowind also has no houses and horses and posioning. That being said Morrowind Vanilla is worse than Skyrim Vanilla except for User interface. But as it stands now with Mods morrowind is better. However when creation kit comes in it will be different.

It begins.

he brings a good if not a bit trollish argument its definitly fair to say that the morrowind core jumped on the flaws of the game (like alot of us did) rather quickly but in truth back in the day alot of people complained about morrowind this all got fixed with patches and mods same with obblivion i think in general as each game passes and theres some dissapointments we tend to get harsher on each game and then compare it to what morrowind did right i rarely hear comparisons to what oblivion did right but thats just what ive seen probaly has to do with expectations mind you in morrowinds day it didnt recieve nearly as much press as skyrim hell even oblivion didnt recieve as much coverage and build up through media so when we think back to morrowind we dont think of what was promised or said cuz nothing was said....it was an article in some magazine not some vid on youtube... :intergalactic: planetary

Oh dear...

i agree ive said my peace on it but tried to keep it as nuetral as possible that said ring the bell cuz its on now :intergalactic:

I find your arguments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctf260qnDeU

Anyone who watches Family Guy IS shallow and pedantic. :icecream:

What was that estate I owned west of Balmora and couldn't advance further in House Hlaallu without getting? It wasn't part of any of my mods.

Morrowind had 1. Skyrim has several. Skyrim wins.

Next.

COME AT ME BRO

That would be an ecumenical matter.

Skyrim has no Nerarvine.
Theres no tribunal in Skyrim.
Theres no Great house questline in Skyrim.

You see where I am going with this?

Not what you said, you said No houses.

Isn't there a rule against verses threads?

Alos morrowind did have werewolves you just needed to buy the Blood Moon exspansion or GOTY copy