Lady's and Gentlemen,

regarding to the latest discussions in the Projectthread:

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=981505

I open this thread as a platfrom for lore discussions about Skyrim. If you find something in the mod is to friendly or unfriendly, so post it HERE and don't spam the projectthread with it, cause 3 pages in 2 days just swamp discussion is too much for it


Feel like in a ancient roman arena :toughninja:

Let the games begin...

Are you sure this is the right forum for this thread? This is the lore section, where people talk about canon lore. If people talk about mod lore, we cannot be sure some day, which lore is correct and which not. I think its better to move the thread back to the MW modding forum.

The mod is build for Morrowind, cause we use the MW-CS for it...but nothing else is regarding to morrowind, only to Skyrim. It's a mod with the size of an entire new game

so I guess this is the right place, cause nothing else deals with Skyrim.

And what do you mean with CANON lore?

Canon lore are ingame books... undoubtful lore. This forum is made for it. We can discuss here the books, the scrolls, the obscure texts and the TIL articles, but modding lore is a very different thing. As far as I know about your project, you are planning/making a TC for Skyrim. In fact, the information about Skyrim is very poor. We know the name of the cities, know nordish traditions and stuff like that. But the information about a TC is very not enough. To make a good story for your TC/mod you have to make your own story and that wouldn't be canon lore. Thats the case, why this thread is not in the right forum.

a - this is not a TC, After Tamriel Rebuilds Mainland and Skyrim - Home of the Nords are finished you can travel from Necrom (East Morrowind) to Karthwasten (West Skyrim)...so you can't talk about a TC, which means it is standalone

b - We have our own story, the storyline is nearly finished, so I don't need anything for a good story

c - All lore discussion in project thread run about cities and the environment of Skyrim, so I guess the Morrowind Forum is the worst place ever for this thread

That's silly. With the same logic, one could deduce that if the lore forum was not regularly confronted with 'non-canon' lore, it's visitors would loose the sense of distinction between canon and non-canon. At any rate, the concept of 'canon' as you define it, is by and large a moot point and it should be quite clear that if there can be no discussion on topics apart from those we already read about, there would be no discussion at all.

To get back on topic: I have cast a quick glance at the OP's threads and I didn't immediately see anything that stuck out as a sore thumb. Just remember that if you are serious about this, any fact -even 'canon' lore- can be changed if necessary, on the condition that it is changed for the better.

Thanx for your statement

Reminds me of the "Imperials and Orcs" bit, eh Adan?

One thing I think that might be a good idea is to remember that a lot of Nordic lore we get through either Imperials (who'se culture is Altmer-lite) or Elves, who notoriously have some severe racial tension with Nords, particularly the Dunmer. So if a few details are different, the classic "That's just what the ignorant outsiders say!" should work wonders.

Hi Lestat,

I've had a look at your EastMarch-Screens and I find them really impressive.
That said I would like to talk again about the clan-topic: You have stated that there will two clans in Skyrim.

When I think of it, I sort of have the feeling that a few more clans could really enrich the province.
I'm not saying you should drop your main idea of two enemy clans...

I rather think of the fact that Morrowind, admittedly a more civilized province, has plenty of communities and factions from which many aren't involved into the mainquest. The small island of Solstheim for itself does involve at least 3 communities. To stay along with this, why not include a few lesser clans? Small groups who offer completely independent questlines and who add a bit to the cultural diversity of the region.

This is, after all, only an idea and not based on any knowledge of the TES-Lore. That's why I think the lore-familiar people from these forums might add their bit to it.

Hi,

there will be more factions on skyrim, but only that 2 nordclan that you can join...it's a separate storyline beside the mainquest...also a paladin order, mage guild, fighters guild, thief guild, imperial cult (all joinable)...maybe more, we will see..

those two clans, you are talking about?? are these the bear and wolf clans??
- because i cannot find anything on skyrim having clans by those names..

Hi Simonp02,

I've found nearly nothing in the lore about Skyrim except a few details, but it doesn't matter...If we will do in the mod only things that are writen in the lore, Skyrim will be just a explore mod....that's not enough...I guess wolf and bear clan fits the best, but maybe there will be more nordclans, but only those will be joinable. I try to add everything from the rare lore plus a large number of new storypoints. One idea is that if you joinin' the wolf clan for example, the shaman give you an amulet or ring that you won't get attacked by wolfs anymore.

I think it would be cool if there was a hunting lodge you could join. There is one in each hold of skyrim ex one for eastmarch, one for winterhold etc etc. The player can go out and try to hunt the biggest game for that hunting lodge. Once he reached like the record size or something, he gains unlimited access to that lodge and is recognized as a master hunter there. You then move on to other holds for the other hunting lodges. And each hold can get more difficult and difficult as you pass on through their ranks. Like one could start out just hunting wolves then you move to bears than werewolves and ice giants. I dont know lol but that sounds like a cool idea

Other members have spoken true: this is nothing to do with lore as it is discussed on the Lore forum. Absent specific reasons to discuss lore background for a mod -- and this thread has none -- discussion belongs in the Mods forum. And since you already have a thread on topic in the Mods forum, let's keep it there and not cross-post: that's against the rules.

All discussion to http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=981505