Skyrim on multiple discs for the xbox 360?

Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:24 am

Wow. 3 discs... for a 360 game? are two of them just for installation or something? I really don't think Skyrim will do the same. And I hope I'm right.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:30 am

Wow. 3 discs... for a 360 game? are two of them just for installation or something? I really don't think Skyrim will do the same. And I hope I'm right.

Lost Odyssey is 4 discs. Blue Dragon is 3. Anyone know if there's ever been a PS3 game that's multi Blu ray disc?
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:06 am


Not ridiculous at all. Microsoft sold 360s without a hard drive, thus the 360 games are required to work without a hard drive.


Interesting. I was under the impression that you couldn't save in OB without a hard drive. Doesn't it require more space to save/play than is on the Arcade 360? My GOTY OB says that it requires 1146 mb just to play the game and the arcade 360 has only 512 mb.

EDIT: Oh, nevermind. A HDD is only required to play the expansions along with the main game. But still, doesn't that stop 360 players without a hard drive from playing the expansions?
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:28 am

also, the GOTY of oblivion came on 2 disk why can't this
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:37 am

I know its been confirmed that there will be one disk but seriously, if there were two disks it would be the same as ME2. You change the disk once and thats it. But a TES game couldn't do that in any way. All the information has to be ready at one time.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:28 am

I know its been confirmed that there will be one disk but seriously, if there were two disks it would be the same as ME2. You change the disk once and thats it. But a TES game couldn't do that in any way. All the information has to be ready at one time.

well one disk you play on and the other you install the rest of the game (like the GOTY)
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:41 am

Pete has already stated the game should be on 1 disc. They have gotten vastly better compression software for voice data and voice was the biggest part of ob file size wise.

Its doubtful; they will go to 2 discs until fallout 4.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:36 am

Its doubtful; they will go to 2 discs until fallout 4.


By then I imagine the "720"/PS4 will be out and they won't need two discs for it.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:58 am

Oh god, I hope not. Multiple discs pretty guaranteed that I won't buy La Noire. That pretty much takes out all the fun of an open world game.

How? Its amazing how little imagination people have regarding the use of multiple disk and how it would work in an open world game.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:59 am

How? Its amazing how little imagination people have regarding the use of multiple disk and how it would work in an open world game.


It's not going to be a lot of fun when I'm driving around, goofing off, ignoring the story, and then I get to the edge of a city and it says "Please Insert Disc 2". Then, when I decide I wanna go back to the other side of the city, it'll say "Please Insert Disc 1".

Lame.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:18 pm

It's not going to be a lot of fun when I'm driving around, goofing off, ignoring the story, and then I get to the edge of a city and it says "Please Insert Disc 2". Then, when I decide I wanna go back to the other side of the city, it'll say "Please Insert Disc 1".

Lame.

But thats not how it works.This is what I am talking about when I refer to lack of imagination, why would you assume this is how it works. The disc changes occur at certain story points. Its the dialog and facial animations that take up all the space, not the world.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:16 pm

This thread makes me love my PS3 that much more! Mmmm, Blu-ray.... tastes gooood!
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:49 am

we can install it to our hardrive and it will work
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:37 am

we can install it to our hardrive and it will work


It will also extend the life of your 360.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:39 am

It's not about having a different person speak the line, but having multiple people speak the same line. If I have 5 different voices that each do a "Hello"-type greeting, that is only 5 audio files they need for that. If there are 100 people in Burma, roughly 20 people would have the same voice, and all 100 people saying hello would still only take 5 audio files (with much repetition). If they now had 100 voice actors, each one would require an audio file for the "Hello"-type greeting. I now have 100 audio files, which will take about 50 times the space. Person A and Person B can (and usually did) usethe same audio files in Oblivion.

That still doesn't really make any sense. You're correct that individual people doesn't really get their own greetings, but gender/race do. And tere are 2 genders and 10 races, so there are 20 different "Hello"-type greetings.

And then there's the other point where the 360 disc could hold up to 6.8GB back then (it became 7.8GB not long ago) and Oblivion is about 2GB less than that. Even with uncompressed audio it would take quite some time to fill 2GB with greetings.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:53 pm

I play on xbox360 and I would be totally for this if it means there can be more game.

I do not have the capability but I would buy a memory upgrade for my xbox just to copy them to my harddisk.
I see no downsides.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:39 am

But thats not how it works.This is what I am talking about when I refer to lack of imagination, why would you assume this is how it works. The disc changes occur at certain story points. Its the dialog and facial animations that take up all the space, not the world.

While that may be true for LA Noire, it's certainly not true for TES. While dialogue is large, the vast majority of it is heavily reused, as are almost all props and resources. There's nowhere to split it, you'd simply have to mirror the vast majority of the data, and then there's no point splitting at all!
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:34 pm

That still doesn't really make any sense. You're correct that individual people doesn't really get their own greetings, but gender/race do. And tere are 2 genders and 10 races, so there are 20 different "Hello"-type greetings.

And then there's the other point where the 360 disc could hold up to 6.8GB back then (it became 7.8GB not long ago) and Oblivion is about 2GB less than that. Even with uncompressed audio it would take quite some time to fill 2GB with greetings.

But if there were more voice actors there would be more greetings. With OB there really wernt 20 greetings more like 13 or so. If say there were 40 voice actors, 4 for each race(2 male and 2 female) then there would be 40 hello files, not 13 thats alot more.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:58 am

But if there were more voice actors there would be more greetings. With OB there really wernt 20 greetings more like 13 or so. If say there were 40 voice actors, 4 for each race(2 male and 2 female) then there would be 40 hello files, not 13 thats alot more.

I remember reading something like 80+ voice actors for Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:10 pm

This morning i was reading a interview with the creators of L.A. Noire, and as it turns out L.A. Noire will be released on 3 discs for the xbox 360! I think we all can assume that Skyrim will be big in many ways, but also in terms of disc space. Todd H. earlier stated that they had issues fitting oblivion on to the xbox 360 disc. Further more he claimed that the reason they had so few voice-actors was due to the limits of disc space.

Do you think Skyrim will be released on multiple dics? Will it be a dealbreaker for xbox owners if you at some point have to change the game disc?

Before you answer I want you to keep in mind that Todd claimed they now better compression methods!
Microsoft is currently testing a new xbox 360 disc that will allow for one more gigabyte of free space.

As a xbox gamer myself i would really hate to see Skyrim on more than one disc.

Edit: according to Dovahkiin and Pete's twitter, Pete confirmed that there will be one disk. :thumbsup:

(I'm sorry if there allready is a thread like this one).


I loved having two disks for LOTR the third age... best RPG on the gamecube ever, even better than zelda...
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:47 am

LA Noire is linear. It is effectively not possible to split an open world with distant land onto multiple discs. Between heavy prop re-use, heavy dialogue repetition, so on, the only thing you *could* split even in theory is the level definitions themselves, and they're tiny - and if you did that, people would hate you because you'd stare out across the land and be greeted by an "Insert disc 2 so we can continue loading distant land".

Utterly unworkable, I'm afraid!

Of course, if you could require an installation it could be done; Microsoft do not allow mandatory installations.

L.A Noire is an open world :P
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:30 pm

How does that work on multiple discs? o.O

Just going along then FREEZE, "Please insert Disc X."?

And whenever you come back to that area it'll do it again?

That would be awfully annoying.



it would only be annoying to people to cheap to get a harddrive for their xbox. at this point in time if you dont have a harddrive on your console then you should be left out in the cold. i have a feeling that either they figured someway around it or xbox said you can only have it on one disk and then the developers said "ok, then we will just make the game for PS3 and PC only" i bet microsoft caved at that point.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:16 pm

It wouldn't work and it's not going to happen.

L.A Noire is an open world :P

I don't think it is.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:25 am

Hopefully,,, 1disc Main playfiles, launcher, voices and stuff. 2 disc. a full install disk with all the Data and stuff.
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Post » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:14 am

I played Baldur's Gate on 5 CD-ROMs. I played every Playstation 1 Final Fantasy game on 4 discs. The Longest Journey (best underrated game ever) was also on 4 discs.

Not only would several discs NOT be a dealbreaker, it's something I actually miss.

Having to change a disc in a game gave me a sense of accomplishment, like, "okay, I've completed one disc! Only three quarters of the game to go!". I miss those kinds of milestones.

Same. Final Fantasy 8 was one of those games, oh i miss those times.
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