skyrim needs to be the most graphically impressive game for

Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:59 am


I completely disagree. I don't see how Oblivion didn't feel more expansive or real than Morrowind. Oblivion felt like an actual living world and the graphics and music added to that feeling. Morrowind was great but it did not invoke a feeling of a real, living, breathing world. As for what the guy you were quoting was saying, there was less exploration in Morrowind than in Oblivion. There were far more dungeons in Oblivion and most of them were more expansive as well. None of them looked the same either. If Oblivion's dungeons were cookiecutter then so was Morrowinds.


Ho... Hoho... Hahaha... Wahahaha

Oh right, you ain't kidding?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:47 pm

So I suppose you'd have enough with Skyrim having Minecraft graphics, don't you?

I'm not saying graphics are everything, but I always find funny those people who say "I don't care about graphics at all" instead of proposing (at least) the best graphics they could develop without compromising gameplay.



So long as they're decent by today's standard then it's fine I think. Doesn't have to be amazing, just not a pain to look at. I would prefare them to focus on the Art style more than the quality, for example the dragon shout in the trailer looks very nice, more of that, and the Stars look great too. Morrowind was a very alien world, oblivion was a very normal looking yet vivid world, Skyrim is supposed to be a dark sort of world isn;t it? So make the enemies more imposing looking(Which they are from the trailers) the i'm happy.

Also the new spells look really nice in general...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:36 am

it is my personal GOTY already, and seeing as Fallout 3 and Oblivion took that title in the year they were released I think Skyrim is a good contender, Skyrim and Call of battlefield: Medal of Gears.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:42 pm

Graphics are a great plus to any game. However, great graphics won't save a game that suffers in poor gameplay. The gameplay in Morrowind seemed superior to Oblivion as the series moved slightly away from its Sandbox origins. I played Morrowind for 2 years straight with multiple different characters. I played Oblivion maybe 6 weeks, since the were some major flaws in the gameplay. So graphics are always good to improve AFTER you have polished every other aspect to the game that you possibly can find. I realize that big games like this probably have completely different teams working on the different aspects of the game, but I would prefer more content and more consequential choices that encourage some replay value over graphical quality. So if that means moving more developmental resources to a larger team that is working on level designs, quest designs, etc... That is what I would prefer.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:33 pm

Uhm...to tell the truth, I didn't noticed those little things you mention. Maybe I'll pay more attention on my 2nd playthought (I'll do it when I have my new rig).

It could just be me, I played it quite a while after release, so had the full force of the graphical hype hit me in the face repeatedly before I actually got to see it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:54 pm

Ho... Hoho... Hahaha... Wahahaha

Oh right, you ain't kidding?


Either that or he has fish-like memory.

So long as they're decent by today's standard then it's fine I think. Doesn't have to be amazing, just not a pain to look at. I would prefare them to focus on the Art style more than the quality, for example the dragon shout in the trailer looks very nice, more of that, and the Stars look great too. Morrowind was a very alien world, oblivion was a very normal looking yet vivid world, Skyrim is supposed to be a dark sort of world isn;t it? So make the enemies more imposing looking(Which they are from the trailers) the i'm happy.

Also the new spells look really nice in general...


But you still need nice graphics for all that art and the worldspace to be satisfactory...
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:06 am

Looks great to me.

Really don't see any need for this game to have teh bestest grafix evar.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:22 pm

So I suppose you'd have enough with Skyrim having Minecraft graphics, don't you?


i never said that, i said that what ive seen so far looks good enough even though its obvious it wont be anything graphically impressive (if it says that way)

and i mentioned improvements from oblivion, when i say there are important things the game needs work on i kinda expect the graphics wont be worse than in oblivion
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:55 pm

Either that or he has fish-like memory.



But you still need nice graphics for all that art and the worldspace to be satisfactory...

Yeah, and I feel that the current quality is good enough that they don't have to focus on it anymore(besides the rapids....). It's fine as it is imo. An impovement over Bethesda's previous games. Now just give it some nice scenery or think to look at, give some colourful magic. That's all I want from it on the graphics side. It's about time Bethesda had some actual cliffs though right? Hills in there other games were merely bumbs in the landscape.

Of course I would LIKE it to have better graphcis but it doesn't matter to me if they don't.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:25 pm

Yeah, and I feel that the current quality is good enough that they don't have to focus on it anymore(besides the rapids....). It's fine as it is imo. An impovement over Bethesda's previous games. Now just give it some nice scenery or think to look at, give some colourful magic. That's all I want from it on the graphics side. It's about time Bethesda had some actual cliffs though right? Hills in there other games were merely bumbs in the landscape.

Of course I would LIKE it to have better graphcis but it doesn't matter to me if they don't.


I agree. In fact, the trailer has surprised me. I didn't expect Crysis-level graphics (and I KNOW I say that line way too much :D). Like you, my major complaint is the rapids. Maybe also the trees foliage (it's me or it's way low-res?), but apart from that, the game looks very cool.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:24 am

Gonna say this only once: graphics are NOT what makes TES. Period.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:58 pm

If you don't look at the trees you won't notice haha....The tree's do look a little weird though. Pc Higher res and anti aliasing though :)
Also they aren't going to...you know...follow us, like in Oblivion?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:41 am

If you don't look at the trees you won't notice haha....The tree's do look a little weird though. Pc Higher res and anti aliasing though :)
Also they aren't going to...you know...follow us, like in Oblivion?

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 pm

If you don't look at the trees you won't notice haha....The tree's do look a little weird though. Pc Higher res and anti aliasing though :)
Also they aren't going to...you know...follow us, like in Oblivion?


Most probably, if the foliages are 2D textures :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:56 pm

Watching the latest trailor I see theres definately room for improvement.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:42 pm

Also, someone's gotta confirm this for me, the dragon fight in the trailer, wasn't and actual fight was it? It was rendered right. Like a cutscene? I heard Bethesda came out and said the whole thing was just first and third person perspective's of fights. But the dragon battle is to cinematic...Or have I underestimated Bethesda?
Speedtree, that was it. It was hilarious sometimes though, it was like the tree was looking at you sometimes. Walking by one in Cheydinhal....scary stuff
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:46 am

"Skyrim needs to be the most graphically impressive game for 2011"

This will be hard in a year with Crysis 2 and Rage coming out. Skyrim seems good and solid, but not to the level of great of some games. I think Skyrim is fine and Bethesda should polish what they've got.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:41 pm

Who's expecting to see some more stuff at GDC though? Two days away.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:08 pm

Uh no Skyrim doesn't need to have incredible graphics. What Skyrim needs to do is to correct the mistakes that Oblivion had and improve on them and anything else that's added on. Skyrim is going to be an incredible game regardless of the graphics. You don't need incredible graphics to have a great game look at Oblivion or Fallout 3.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:06 pm

this is an rpg. part of tes is looking at dazzling environments! morrowind involved more exploring than any game i have played and i must say that exploring would have been better if it was photorealistic!

my first major grip is TEXTURES!!!!. they are horrible!! http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy297/b_harrison/skyrim/skyrim_gameplay_shout1.jpg this is a game where you attack your opponents realy CLOSE to you with mellee weapons! being realy close exposes the terrible textures! bethesda needs to sort their textures out! on the helmet you can see how detailed the scratches are- proving its high res. yet it looks so BAD. perhaps bethesda should at least try the cod method!

the cod technique is to slap a additional overlay onto materials. a soldier might have a low res camo uniform texture, but the overlay added seperatly makes all material with the cloth type have a cloth pattern added!
halo does this too, its most noticable when you see that their are scratches everywhere!!

running water would look fine if it wasnt all white and instead used a refraction map!



skyrim needs cloth physics and dx11!! look at the shingles on the roof from the gameplay video!



on the plus side distant shots and fog look awesome

You sir have annoyed me not only have Beth worked hard for 5 years on this and u feel u can de value that in 5 mins, critiques do not use words like bad or horrible that's the most pathetic thing I've heard on here in a while, it's a open world rpg designed on xbox get a grip it's looks great for what it is...if you are over 16 I'm very disappointed with your grasp of the subject matter.
I'm fed up will the negative down right abusive attacks on this game, it's not perfect but how can it be grow up people and understand what to exspect within the relems of pissability I knows it's a fantasy game but your mind is not get ur facts straight. the only peice I'll agree with is more games should support dx11 but will the issues involved and the current trends I don't see it being important compared to the chances in animation quality and game features. I'm done, hope all the kids can grow up and c that skyrim is shaping up to be one ofthe best games All Round ever made.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:28 am

*sigh* Some people are never happy are they? :) calm down, by making a thread like this you are:

a) making yourself more frustrated, and going through unneeded emotional turmoil. Patience, young padawan.

B) admitting your fear. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and Hate leads to suffering. (lol I'll stop with the star wars now :P )

c) In denial that it is extremely good looking as it is. For proof- I point to the screnshot of the town and temple at night, pretty, at least :)

Relax, I'm sure you'll see in future plently of material to qualm your fear. Don't give in to it, the game'll still be an excellent TES experience.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:29 am

Also, someone's gotta confirm this for me, the dragon fight in the trailer, wasn't and actual fight was it? It was rendered right. Like a cutscene? I heard Bethesda came out and said the whole thing was just first and third person perspective's of fights. But the dragon battle is to cinematic...Or have I underestimated Bethesda?
Speedtree, that was it. It was hilarious sometimes though, it was like the tree was looking at you sometimes. Walking by one in Cheydinhal....scary stuff

The camera was just well controled it was all in game as far as I'm aware. Oviously it was cut well and the camera angles are not the ones we will use but I believe it's as it will be. Very good on them to formulate animations that suit fighting dragons not just hacking at there legs...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:08 pm

You sir have annoyed me not only have Beth worked hard for 5 years on this and u feel u can de value that in 5 mins, critiques do not use words like bad or horrible that's the most pathetic thing I've heard on here in a while, it's a open world rpg designed on xbox get a grip it's looks great for what it is...if you are over 16 I'm very disappointed with your grasp of the subject matter.
I'm fed up will the negative down right abusive attacks on this game, it's not perfect but how can it be grow up people and understand what to exspect within the relems of pissability I knows it's a fantasy game but your mind is not get ur facts straight. the only peice I'll agree with is more games should support dx11 but will the issues involved and the current trends I don't see it being important compared to the chances in animation quality and game features. I'm done, hope all the kids can grow up and c that skyrim is shaping up to be one ofthe best games All Round ever made.


I don't see how thinking something looks bad is in some way ungrateful, or why indeed we need to be overly grateful for the ability to buy a product. If everybody was like you, and said everything was perfect all the time, then there would never be any reason to improve. While I'm sure you would prefer this forum full of praise, praise without the ability to criticise is utterly meaningless.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:59 am

You sir have annoyed me not only have Beth worked hard for 5 years on this and u feel u can de value that in 5 mins, critiques do not use words like bad or horrible that's the most pathetic thing I've heard on here in a while, it's a open world rpg designed on xbox get a grip it's looks great for what it is...if you are over 16 I'm very disappointed with your grasp of the subject matter.
I'm fed up will the negative down right abusive attacks on this game, it's not perfect but how can it be grow up people and understand what to exspect within the relems of pissability I knows it's a fantasy game but your mind is not get ur facts straight. the only peice I'll agree with is more games should support dx11 but will the issues involved and the current trends I don't see it being important compared to the chances in animation quality and game features. I'm done, hope all the kids can grow up and c that skyrim is shaping up to be one ofthe best games All Round ever made.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:41 pm

I don't see how thinking something looks bad is in some way ungrateful, or why indeed we need to be overly grateful for the ability to buy a product. If everybody was like you, and said everything was perfect all the time, then there would never be any reason to improve. While I'm sure you would prefer this forum full of praise, praise without the ability to criticise is utterly meaningless.


Indeed. Just as annoying as he thought the other guy was.
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