Lol. You belong in a PnP RPG forum around five years ago, bemoaning the effect computer games and movies will have on the hobby and endlessly going over how 1e or 2e where such better additions of *insert RPG here* because you actually needed to use all your different dice during CC and it took a whole session (or maybe two) to role up a character.

Shockingly enough PnP games still exist! And computer games don't appear to have had much of an impact on them! And people are still going over the same arguments and bemoaning etc. today. And will still be five years from now.

Ah, the more things change and the more things stay the same.

My first CRPG was Bards Tale and I have been playing rpgs ever since. I think Skyrim is a great rpg.

My goodness, I've seen TES games implied, but not said outright... unless I'm missing something. Ok, her you go...

If you like Skyrim, the closest thing to it is Oblivion. They feel very much alike... seeing that Skyrim is the next chapter.

If you like the looks and feel of Skyrim and Oblivion, try Fallout 3. Many people say it is Oblivion with guns. I didn't think I would care for that idea, but it is just as good as Oblivion... definitely just as fun.

Now I'm going to introduce you to the ancestors of Skyrim. And it's the changes that Skyrim has made from them that makes many of us upset...

Morrowind... my personal favorite TES game. It doesn't look like Skyrim, but it still in a full 3D world. If you get the newer graphics enhancers, it can look just as good as Oblivion. Play it. It's for your own good. You'll thank me later. You can take that to the bank.

Daggerfall... the king of TES. The biggest, the baddest. It was what TES was meant to be. A game-world so big, you will NEVER walk across it. In fact, you will probably never even walk anywhere outside of a city or inside of a dungeon. Over 62,000 miles of world. Play it, live it, love it. You may just die in it before you finish it. And there's no excuse whatsoever to not try it... because you can get it here for free...

http://www.elderscrolls.com/daggerfall/

You will need http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1 to play it, though. Read through these http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Running_Under_DOSBox#Daggerfall_.28free_release.29 also.

If you just want to save all of that work, you could just download http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN. Supposedly, it is ready-to-play without all of the tinkering. I haven't tried it, though, so no guarantee.


As for other games, Dragon Age: Origins is very nice. So is the "Tales" series. Tales of Symphonia is incredible. The sequel is descent... but nothing compared to the first. Tales of Vesperia is quite similar to the first.

While it's not an RPG, Half-Life 2 is AMAZING. Mount & Blade is great if you like large-scale first-person medieval combat. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is also a classic.

Do yourself a favor OP and look up some Let's Plays on youtube for Witcher 2 and Dragon Age: Origins. If your still awake after a couple episodes, go for it lol. It kept me from buying DA:O, unfortunately I did end up getting Witcher 2 before checking it out and reading the forum.

^ I've heard good things about Mount & Blade and it does sound interesting, I might actually try that out sometime.

Skyrim looks good on the outside but it is a very hallow game with features that are dated & nothing revolutionary. Its like having a nice italian roll sandwich with spam on the inside. The roll is nice and looks good but the meat in the roll is lacking.

If Skyrim is not good, then Fallout: New Vegas is. If Fallout: New Vegas is not, then Morrowind.

This.

The Witcher 2 is an excellent game, and imo more deserving of GOTY than Skyrim. Plus, it looks fantastic.

Basically, the only competition (In the same genre and similar gameplay) that Skyrim has is other Bethesda's games (And New Vegas) or, usually, very old games.

Maybe we should issue Bethesda for the monopoly of Open-World RPG Medieval and Apocalyptic games. :teehee:

Divinity 2 is awesome, I played it fully, did every little quest/thing I could in it, around 70 hours of gameplay, but it doesn't have the opennes, posibilities, exploring, number of quests and a whole lot of other things Skyrim has, Skyrim really is on a league of its own.

But you have selected a great choice of game too

Daggerfall will be a great alternative once the DaggerXL overhaul is done. Better graphics, better controls.

Idk what you're talking about guy, Skyrim is the only video game ever made. You might be schizophrenic or something

Indeed, they can definitely use some polish, but I haven't played a game similar to them yet. Not to mention all of the mods for them. The original Mount & Blade just had a Lord of the Rings conversion released called The Last Days. It's quite interesting!




I hope and pray that is true... and that it is finished soon!

Ps. Daggerfall is not the alternative to anything. Everything else is the alternative to it

Go play Daggerfall and Morrowind and realize what a REAL RPG is. Those games are bigger and better than Skyrim, in all ways RPG.

for console games it is the new standard basically

this. And that still is true today. It aged extremely well (not at all!).
Number 2 would be Morrowind for me, at its time. Today, I am not so sure anymore. It still is extremely good, but didn't age too well (there is the Morrowind Overhaul 2.0 though...soon).

New Vegas better than skyrim?!? Looooooooool

Yea I agree. CD Projeck may not have at much resources as Bethesda but they tried their best to do a game, listen to their community and provide good support after release(free DLCs and free enhanced edition).

Bethesda have so much resources that they can do so much, but they are so prudent and not even willing to use a new engine.

I was kind of surprised when I saw in spike tv award that Dragon Age 2 was nominated in the RPG section but not The Witcher 2.

You can pick new Vegas up for ￡6 on eBay, and there is a reason for that, it's just not that great man, not IMO anyway, that's why you can pick it up so damn cheap.

I've played TES since Daggerfall, and countless other great RPGs, I still like Skyrim a lot, and will play it a lot. I don't think it's comparable to a piece of a bread.

OP, if you like it, keep playing it. Also, experiment with whatever else you can get your hands on, who knows what you'll find that you absolutely love?

The mod Brytenwalda is also pretty epic last I looked.

I'd actually like the horses from Mount & Blade to inspire the horses from Skyrim a bit more.

The only thing that I hate about New Vegas is the linearity of the start of the game... Oblivion, Morrowind and Skyrim have a Tutorial thing and that's it. New Vegas no... It's linear until you enter The Strip. (After going trough Goodsprings, Nipton, Novac, always in that order)

IMO skyrim is goty with dark souls very, very close second.

If skyrim is not your bag, try demons souls or dark souls.

Just be thankful it isn't a comparison to a car accident. In the "if a car maker released a car that exploded and killed you then it would be a crime, but Bethesda can release a game with bugs and people are going to give them GOTY - WHERE IS THE JUSTICE" sense.

Hyperbole is funny sometimes.

It's just nitpicking. Skyrim is a great game, but there's always something to improve or to add, but it doesn't make a game bad.

This is true. I'm just not sure if I want to laugh or cry yet. :cryvaultboy: