consoles limit far more then graphics friend.

i love all teh people in here snippeting the xbox bash and using that as a basis for invalidating OP's claims lol. grow up and pay attention.

this game was created for consoles (yes xbox mainly) which is a outdated and obsolete system. therefore the game has to operate within those limitations.

combine that with a poor port to bethesdas original fanbase (pc users) and you get a mess.

skyrim is fun, but its still a bad console port of something so outdated it shouldve been scrapped years ago.

however to the main title, skyrim isnt exactly a POOR rpg, its just not like traditional rpgs. its minimalist rpg, no big stats or number crunching, they made imo a great initial talent and progression systems taht actually PUNISHES min/maxing to a degree instead of role playing.

however i do think they went too minimalist so your char just feels generalized.

now as for what he means by xbox crowd...he means the isntant gratification, achievement [censored], braggards that dont have the mental fortitude to play a game that doesnt spoonfeed them. and yes, xbox (microsoft) were the pioneers in influencing and creating this crowd...it exists even if you dont want to believe it. and its hurting the gaming community from a creative standpoint.

...such as?

Yeah, as an RPG, Skyrim is about as casual as it gets.

Got this for the PC, main problem with the game is that it is now so dumbed down for Xbox users that the stats side of the character generation is now virtually pointless more so than in Oblivion. Had hoped that they may have moved back towards the Morrowind's more subtle character stats giving a more individually crafted character. What you now get is a rather generic character you just hack and slash your way through the game which is fine but it just lacks the degree of character crafting that made Morrowind so great and was at least ok in Oblivion. The Menu system is also very poor its just so bland, no icons or view of your character with the equipment on and moving between menus is just so awkward particularly when in combat. Oblivion at least had quite a quility feel to its menu's which were easy to move between and its character generation was better with its associated artwork, etc.

Graphics is also a problem, although the graphics overal is impressive looking there seems to be slight pixelation at the sides of objects, i.e a slight jagged black line. Oblivion does not have this and it not a problem related to hardware as far as I can see. This game just gives the feel that it was rushed through in places without any thought for quality. Now its almost just pick up a weapon and of you go so no not what I look for in an RPG and will be unwilling to pay full price for any such similar offering in the future now I know what to expect.

On the plus side the intro is quite good, a bit different from the usual, 'the king is dead and you have to save the world' type intro it looked like it might turn out to be in early development gameplay is fine not quite as tongue in cheek as Oblivion which is a shame. Just think they could have been a bit more inventive with the stuff they could have included. The weapon generation lacks any notion of being able to craft an individual weapon it just feels like a world of warcraft rehash. So yes this game could have been so much better.

In weapon generation they could have had a series of two or three phases in which you generated an individually crafted weapon say starting of with a rod of steel, lengthening or shortening it, ie. betweeen one and two handed weapons, then adding the tip, jagged edges or bending it (perhaps some templates you can squash down or lengthen to achieve this) then finally customising the hilt again from templates you can alter. I just don't see the point of generating a weapon you can buy in the weapon shop, its rather pointless. I think what people want is to be able to generate an individual character, armour and weaponry without having to resort to doing a 3d cad version themselves and bringing it into the game that it was never supposed to be a part of.

Now I could go on with more ideas to bring more of an interesting element to the game but I think the above gives an idea. I just think that this game could have been more adventurous on this front particularly as they have done several now. I just wish they have not messed with the character generation more than they had done in Oblivion as it now feels so dumbed down and weak in this repect which I feel is what many RPG's want just to try and make a few more bob flogging it to those that arn't really big RPG fans, what do you think?

...such as?

Yeah, no it isn't. No casual gamer would even be able to comprehend Skyrim.

Yeah, no it isn't. No casual gamer would even be able to comprehend Skyrim.

- everyone with a pc is "l33t" and hardc0re! heck even mom that plays farmville on facebook and little Anna that enjoys The Sims.
- everyone else in the world is a nub and a casual console player!
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AI, environmental interactivity, physics, anything that's requires more than simplistic CPU power. The processing power just isn't there on the consoles to make advanced stuff happen.




Hahahaha. Skyrim is made for casual gamers.

Your Mom is a casual game. Played by casual gamers.

And what about what I have stated? I owned a Genesis when I was a kid, like right when it came out. I know that everybody didn't own one. But I grew up in a heavy video game family. My dad use to play Quake on the PC, but also the N64.

Are you saying that everyone who plays a console is the casual gamer? Because that seems to be everyone's argument.

Console = casual gamer

Take a look around the forum. The "casual gamer" thinks Skyrim is the best thing since COD.

Yeah, no it isn't. No casual gamer would even be able to comprehend Skyrim.

Your Mom is a casual game. Played by casual gamers.

You clearly don't know what a casual gamer is. A casual gamer plays Farmville and Wii Sports, not RPG's of any type.

You clearly don't know what a casual gamer is. A casual gamer plays Farmville and Wii Sports, not RPG's of any type.

Skyrim isn't an RPG.