Late 2012 is the actual release date... six years after the PS3's release. I do support a porting of Skyrim over to the new platform, but I can only help but wonder how long Nintendo's new console will actually last. It will be released 7 years after the 360 and 6 years after the PS3 and it has been stated to only be a bit more powerful than the PS3, from most sources. How long will it be until the next Xbox and the PS4 come around and blow Nintendo's new console completely out of the water?

How do you figure that?

If you believe boasts from Nintendo =/.

The PS3 and 360 are currently so powerful they have several more years left before they need to release another console, and nintendo has to rush one out to try equaling old technology? Every time a new console comes out it takes at least a year before developers can really bring out the full power of the system, the new Nintendo console will not be superior on release.

Ignore

Well, the question is, how much more powerful can consoles get?

No, I believe the natural progression of technology.

Oh how little you know. Allow me to cure your ignorance.

It's true that third party developers haven't done very well on nintendo platforms, but that's one of the goals with project cafe. A simple port to a console with more power than the PS3 should be simple.

That's right, I said more power than the PS3.
What makes you think they will come out with something worse than the current consoles? When the wii came out, it was just as good as the xbox and PS2.
then the Xbox360 and Ps3 came and it became inferior.
Well the same thing is happening, it's the same if not better as the 360 and PS3, but once the next consoles from Sony and microsoft come out, it'll be blown out of the water.
And so, it could easily be ported to the "wii2" for a small sum of money that they'd likely break even pretty easily with on the new nintendo platform.

Yeah and then MS and Sony will bring out their superior console and it will be the Wii all over again as far as 3rd parties are concerned.

I'm just waiting for MS to strike a E3 and reveal their new console is coming out in 2012. Mind you it would have probably been leaked by
now this close to E3. MS are really bad a keeping things secret. Apparently Sony is working on theirs but we knew that didn't we?

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/05/13/building-nintendos-project-cafe?objectid=106342

I think they will show something new this E3, not a new console per se, but like "Yeah, here's the technology of the future, only on Xbox/Playstation".

Why would anyone not want it to be ported to the Cafe? It's not like it will impact the release date for PC and the other consoles on 11.11.11

I will never buy one, but personally I don't care at all whether Skyrim gets a Cafe port or not.

if Bethesda makes a little extra $$$ from selling a cafe version, good for them. Hell they can make an iPhone app if they want to, I don't give a [censored]

Not much I think

Pc will allways be ontop of power

Everything you are saying hinges on Nintendo changing their buisness plan of the last decade. Plus, I'd argue there were better looking (and playing) games on the PS2 than there has been on the wii, so much for that power argument.

Once they recreate reality virtually, i think the technology will plateau a bit.

Cool semi-related idea: you know how they are working on pads you can drive onto in order charge your electric car like those phone charger pads? well i imagine soon controllers will no longer need batteries, as the consoles will act as a wireless charger.

Nintendo 64 is still the best console Nintendo ever made, Zelda Ocarina of time was an amazing game.

Yes, I am that person. Why?

Actually the 360 and PS3 came out before the Wii. The Xbox 360 had been out about a year before the Wii.
Nintendo knew who their target audience was for this console, in terms of sales, it worked.



Your avatar confused me because my mind associated the memory of your name to your old avatar. Ergo,
I had to reassure myself about this conflicting information by asking you about it. That is the reason why.

Elementary.

This, they got people who normally don't play games and hard core nintendo fans who would still buy it for Zelda and Mario alone, but alienated everyone else who might have once respected Nintendo.

Well said :thumbsup:

That doesn't make any sense... unless you're giving in to the "good gaming PCs are ridiculously expensive" claim. Consoles are not some toy or foreign entity to PCs, they're computers themselves. The advancement of graphical technology, period, allows for better PCs and consoles. They both get very noticeably better over time, and as long as PC technology can keep improving and remain affordable, console technology will do the same thing.

The point is, Project cafe will be able to run Skyrim.
And I don't see why it can't be ported.

well there rumor that it will not have a Hard Drive ,if that true i dont see Skyyrim happening for Cafe.

Some 360s don't have hard drives and Skyrim is being designed with that in mind.


However, if a game console being released in late 2012 doesn't have a hard drive, the folks over at Nintendo are cheap fools who must not know much about modern computing/gaming, in my opinion. Hard drives should be a standard for any respectable gaming device.

I think it's a toss-up between SNES and N64. I'd go with SNES though...

N64: Zelda OoT and MM, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Goldeneye, and i guess Banjo kazooie and tooie.

SNES:Act Raiser 1, Zelda Link to the past, Super Mario World, Super Mario RPG, Mario Kart, Mario Paint, Earthbound, Chrono-Trigger, Mega Man X (1, 2, and 3).

SNES wins it for me.

Back on topic, just because the gamecube and wii are considered failures to most "hardcoe" gamers doesnt mean they can't make a comeback. Nintendo used to BE the industry. It took years when i was a kid for my mom to stop calling my Xbox or PS2 "The Nintendo". Nintendo just needs to grow-up. With third part support, and some mature titles they will do fine.

Even back with the 64 and SNES, Nintendo was never really into "serious" gaming, I'd say, and hence they seem unlikely to truly attract Sony and Microsoft's console fanbases. That's the thing about Sony and Microsoft. They go for serious games and respectable computing power. Nintendo... doesn't. Even now, this new console just doesn't appeal to me from the very beginning if it's only marginally more powerful than a PS3.