I do believe that Todd has said in past interviews that they would consider releasing Elderscrolls games on any platform that would support them.

That being said, whether the target audiences for a Skyrim-like game and a Nintendo rig are a good matchup is quite another question.

In that case, I wonder if Sony's NGP will get a port.

You know why you have to install part of the game on PS3 before you can play don't you? It's because the 2x Blu-Ray player in a PS3 is not as fast as the 12x drive that's in the 360. A 4x Blu-Ray drive blows a 12x DVD drive out of the water in terms of raw speed though.

Not having a hard drive on a console doesn't necessary mean it's awful, but things do load much quicker from a hard drive of course. I am sure the next Nintendo system will have an internal hard drive, mainly for downloads, if not just installation purposes.

well, during the 16-bit era SNES had just about as many "serious" games as needed. It WAS sorta lame they replaced blood with sweat in Mortal Kombat, but games were just more cartoony back then, due to the graphical limitations. N64 did kinda keep it on the kiddy-level a bit too long (when PS1 had more serious titles like Metal Gear Solid, and Tomb Raider), and then the gamecube was just too much. I know someone in the upper-management of nintendo must be pushing for an overhaul and replacement for nintendo's "kiddy" image... at least i hope so, It all comes down to the money.

If Nintendo doesn't grow-up, I think Project Cafe will go the way of the Dreamcast.

The main problem I have is the refusal to allow mandatory installs due to a lack of a hard drive. The complaints about DVDs limiting the size of Skyrim... I think they're valid worries. Will Nintendo be utilizing a 4x Blu-Ray drive? What kind of Disk Drive do most PCs have in them to demand mandatory installs?

The Wii is the console definition of "casual gamer". Families buy the Wii for the gimmick factor, and cheap price, use it for a bit and then barely touch it after they e had their fill. I know atleast 10 people who's families have done just that. Now if this new system's goal is to get those casual gamers to purchase it, then Nintendo starts releasing more 3rd party franchises and in house franchises to get them playing longer and turning them into "consistent game sales" gamers, then cool. If it's another Wii, aka sell a [censored] load of consoles with a flashy gimmick to a target audience of casual-semi casual gamers, then no, keep skyrim away. The last thing TES needs is to market itself to the casualest of the casual gamers market.

I've read that nintendo isn't even calling this new system it's "next gen" system. Its more like a bridge to their next gen system, or something or other. Weird.

The Wii owns in units sold, but only because it's so well marketed as a family game night type of machine. That, with a low price, made it sell like hot cakes. When my born again aunt told me she had bought one I looked up in the sky, and didn't see any pigs flying. That's when I new nintendo had sold thier soul to the devil.

It's true Wii has a huge excess of casual games, but they cater to more hardcoe fans as well.


Titles such as Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Donkey Kong Country: Jungle Returns, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Kriby: Epic Yarn, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Brothers: Brawl, Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Maybe that one), Monster Hunter 3 Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, and the new Kirby Game coming out are all examples of games that appeal to more hardcoe videogamers that have had Nintendo Consoles since the beginning.

Just because they don't have the latest and greatest realistic shooters and/or racing games doesn't mean it is just "casual games." I personally own an Xbox 360, Wii, and a gaming computer (which I plan to get Skyrim for) so that I can enjoy most games out there.


Edit: Some games (like Mario Kart Wii and Kirby Epic Yarn) can appeal to casual gamers. However, they also use franchises that hardcoe fans from the beginning want to play.

To be honest what game has been limited by DVDs on the 360? Most of them come on 2 or 3 disks if not. As I own LA noire on the 360, it is absolutely no problem for me that it is 3 disks. It takes like 10 seconds to change it and continue playing.
Forza 3 had 2 disks. The second one you had to install the tracks, while the first one was to play the game. This required a hard drive. I think if you don't have a hard drive you should go and get one to be honest. There is no reason you shouldn't have
one unless you are tight as hell. I'm not even sure the next generation of consoles should have games on disks. I wouldn't want it to go download only, but why not just have something like a small hard drive that you plug in and play games off of ?

Do I think? No.
Do I want? Yes.

Who am I to deprive anyone of skyrim!

Let them eat cake!

How would an open world RPG like Skyrim work with two disks that must be changed, by dividing the world in half?

Lol, no. It won't happen.

that doesn't rule out HVDD...

LA Noire didn't have that problem, the cases were just divided up. If you can fit an 8 square mile depiction of 1940's LA onto each disk and have room for the facial capture stuff, plus missions, I think Skyrim will be okay.
Skyrim is mostly natural landscape, which is pretty much repeated. I very much doubt it will be on two disks.

This is a bit off-topic, but I'm curious to know why this facial capture stuff took up so much space.

Bethesda has been around since 1986 and they have NEVER released an ELDER SCROLLS game on ANY Nintendo console (NES, Game Boy, SNES, Virtual Boy, N64, GameCube, NDS, Wii). Call me crazy, but I don't see it happening with Project Cafe. :biggrin:

because it takes 79 cents to make a dvd
it takes about $20-$200 depending on size to make this "small hard drive"

lol

I think it was to do with the fact they had 30-odd cameras (so all that data) on one actor with multiple scenes to act, plus idle pvssyr and animations (so lots of sound files too).
There were also hundreds of actors because everyone of them had this new face capturing technology going on. I have never seen such a large cast of real people in a game before.

I agree with you, but their main target audience is anything but hardcoe fans at this point. I own a Wii too, but I only play it when my son wants to watch me, because he loves their games. The xbox has a lot of casual games too, but they are more focused on regular gamers. The Wii gets more people who wouldn't buy and xbox or ps3, but would buy a Wii because it's come to the point were everyones got a Wii! I'd just rather see nintendo tryto get more mature gamer types, other then those casual non gamers and nostalgia die hards.

And GoldenEye, Mario Kart 64, Super Mario 64, Banjo-Kazooie... All...10/10 !!! SUPER-FUN !!!!

I'm sure it would be cheaper than that, but yes it would be much more expensive than your run-of-the-mill DVD. I was just throwing out what I would like to see though that's all.

I don't think it'll happen but if it does, cool. More power to them.

Who's to say that this new console is more powerful then the PS3. I find that hard to believe.

I definitely think that Beth/Zenimax should explore the possibility of releasing Skyrim for the new console but if Nintendo's aim audience is 8-14 then it would be a waste of time.

Funny

2006:

Bethesda has been around since 1986 and they have NEVER released an ELDER SCROLLS game on ANY Sony console (PSX, PSP, PS2). Call me crazy, but I don't see it happening with PS3. :biggrin:

*E3 2006 comes*

Oh crap!

It's certainly more powerful because it is supposed to output games at 1920x1080 resolution

Xbox and PS3 are limited to 1280x720 resolution