So it's not all snow because most of it looks like Cyrodiil? Since we've spent an entire thread congratulating ourselves for discovering this simple fact... what next?

We burn it for looking like Oblivion's Cyrodiil.

Shortly after attempting to burn down Oblivion's jungles until we look around and say 'Hey... Where...?'

Unfortunately, I've already http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=967715&st=0&p=13981971&hl=norway&#entry13981971 http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=955734&st=60&p=13829568&hl=norway&#entry13829568. Some people are really dense.

Skyrim is maybe the only place that have its own type of enviorment. I mean Summerset, Cyrodill, Elsweyr, Valenwood, all of them have the same forrest/jungle landscape, and maybe desert. And all of the dungeons is properbly elven ruins.

Now Skyrim! It have ice caves, glaciers, ice elves (falmer) who STILL is alive, and not extingt like ayleids. And also, it is the first human kingdom on Tamirel. And also the people are unlike other races. All of the other races are too friendly (exept dunmer). Imperials, redguards, high and wood elves, and even ORCS are all to friendly.

Now Nords! They dont give a damn about you unless you buy them a drink. Honer, pride or liquer is what its all about! And think of all the monsters out there in the hard enviorment. And also, they care vary much about their tradition.

This is why I'm not too hot on Skyrim. I think I appreciate Nords as much if not more than most people, I grew up in a town that has the largest Norwegian Independence Day (Sytten de Mai) celebration outside of Oslo. I think The 13th Warrior is Micheal Crichton's best book. Amon Amarth is maybe my second favorite band of all time.

But the climate would be too much like Cyrodiil. Green Valleys, snowy mountains, narrow rivers, except with one large northern coast. I think they should save that game for TES VI or VII, when the technology has advanced enough to make that landscape seem entirely different. I want wolfskin cloaks that flow in the icy wind. Falling snow that accumulates into swirling drifts.

Until then, somewhere else would be better.

No it isn't. The southern quarter is like Cyrodiil, which in proportions like that isn't going to get annoying as it was in Oblivion. The bigger western half is much like Hammerfell, which we haven't seen yet but for innacurate examples given in Redguard. A tad more than half is snow and ice, which in and of itself isn't that bad. The Cyrodiil-like climate is the smallest part. Besides, whine enough and they will change the climate so when we play it we whine about how the climate isn't what it was supposed to be in lore so Beth can bang their heads against the wall :banghead: , as seen in Oblivion.

The climate is about 3/16 Cyrodiil-like, 5/16 Hammerfell-like, and 8/16, well, Skyrim-like.

So all-in-all we still haven't figured out the climate in Skyrim after an entire thread How delightful
Lets assume the above is correct and leave the geography behind, eh?

Your geography is sort of loopy here.

So we're still discussing geography?
How about we leave it up to Bethesda to say? If TESV is Skyrim. If it isn't feel free to decide amongst yourselves

I'm all for Skyrim, I love the Nords, and I love the snow.

There are still alot of people thinking that it's all snow and crap, so I'll bump this back up for effect.

Well it's less that people think it but more that they FEAR it, specially after seeing the "green wasteland" they made of Oblivion... simply making it all rocks, snow and mountains is a very easy way to cut design corners and "stick to the lore" somewhat by saying "it's the north, it's suposed to be snowy!"

Isn't that what I said...?

Tall peaks would make for a beautiful view. Also, this could be a very good chance for Bethesda to develop an even more unique and dynamic weather system.

It would be fascinating to see the homeland of the very first human settlers.

I think the whole "fear of ____ province turning out bland and cliche" is something not specific to Skyrim and snow. We could say that about any of the provinces. If it's Valenwood, it could just be trees, trees, and more bland trees. If it's in Hammerfell, it could be repetitive sand, crags, and oases. If it's in Black Marsh, it could be an endless clone of "blackwood," briefly surrounded by more temperate fields. This fear of cliche can be applied to absolutely anywhere, and since it's applicable anywhere I don't consider it a valid argument against Skyrim.

Yesterday i went to the UESP page of skyrim and I've to say that i like Skyrim now... wich i first didn't...

Besides mayby just al little part of Skyrim will be Snowy..

I mean how many of you saw big mushrooms coming on Vvarderfell, wich was first seen as a volcanic Isle (for so far I know)
And wasn't Cyrodiil supposed to be a jungle?

Besides I like the idea of better harborcities, more Dunmer-like cities, the very big mountain...

I guess that only the upper north and the borders will be snowy, the north because of Atmora and the rest because of the mountains,

And if they add Solstheim Skyrim would be really really cool....

Indeed. For someone like myself who live in the real life north, winter can be pretty 'good', but the rest of the year is far from harsh.

Would be pretty awesome if Bethesda were able to include seasons this time around. Imagine changing environments :drool:

Anybody who still thinks that not only doesn't read any lore, they also don't read these topics, of which there have been many.
The problem with Skyrim isn't the snow and ice, its the Nords.

Yeah, they need better voice actors.

This tread is created to discuss two things: the climate and geography of Skyrim and Nordic culture. So why leave the geography behind?

And Bethesda has shown us many time that they don't give a crap about previous lore.

I don't think the question is whether Skyrim is "that bad of a place." It's more "Would it make the most interesting setting for TESV?"

The majority (not me!) voted for Cyrodiil in pre-Oblivion forum polls, and it's been moderately interesting, but I'd like to see the next game set in a non-human area. Skyrim wouldn't be awful--and atory likely determines setting--but it's by no means the province I'm most curous to see.

I'd really like Skyrim, you could have a real 'Conan the Barbarian' kind of feel to it. Imagine the snowy plains, dark forests and hungry wolves... Big burly men clad in fur flailing at each other with big burly weaponry. Only a few select places that you could call 'civilized', while the rest of the country consists of small chiefdoms locked in clan warfare.

But on a side note I'll go for any Tamrielic province, just as long as it isn't Morrowind or Cyrodiil again.

I was thrilled to hear the rumours that TES:V would be based in Skyrim. If they do it correctly, it has the potential to be as diverse and interesting as Morrowind, when we got our first looks at Vvardenfell. However, if it turns out to be dumbed down and generic like Oblivions interpretation of Cyrodill, then expect Bruma spread across an entire continent.