Skyrim will be game of the year.

After that happens you can rant about how the whole series is over due to one patch.

Then, you can say how the next patch will sink sales and ruin everything that Bethesda has ever done. How Todd Howard will be stone in the street by the all the fans demanding refunds.

Then, when the creation kit comes out and something is wrong with it, you can say how the whole modding community should rise up and occupy Bethesda Studios.

Nope wrong.
Skyrim has 486 places while Oblivion has 367.
But I guess more than a hundred new places that aren't copy and paste isn't bigger for you now is it?

Just as an example:

I was told about the VGA awards and went to vote......b/c I was bored. The VGAs are horrible.

Anyway, When it came to the vote for GotY there was Batman: AC and Skyrim. I had not played Skyrim but would have voted for it just b/c....well b/c its an Elder Scrolls game. But I heard that it had some really ridiculous bugs so I voted for Batman.

A few days later I finally got Skyrim......and I wish I had voted Skyrim as GOTY.

In my perception, it's either Skyrim or Portal 2. Deus Ex 3 would be an excellent choice for runner up to either of them, but it isn't quite made of winning material.

Great, anoth-

Screw it. :brokencomputer:

TES games were always among the biggest games (if not THE biggest) in freedom and size (and well, generaly everything) on the market. With such big games errors are bound to happen, and we all know that this bugs may or may not happen, and may happen to some people, and not to others. It's practically impossible for dev team to iron out ALL such bugs on their own in games this big.

Just one of the reasons Skyrim could be GOTY.

Not just directed at your comment but others have made a similar point.

While skyrim is big, content is not the be all end all. Personally i love the game being huge, and it bugs me to get home, play MW2 (i think) for 5 hours on the hardest level and finish the game only to take it back to the store the next day for a refund. I like the game being big, i think the variety and depth of most quests are great. I think it is a brilliant game, and that many other games are going to have problems.

But it really is very annoying to come home, want to just sit and play for a few hours to chill out, only to have consistent problems. The latest patch has made some things worse, but i was having problems from day one.

less quests and shorter quest lines, less land area, yea id call that smaller.

Well, as big a fan as I am, I think anybody who is completely certain that Skyrim is GOTY must not have played Arkham City. At the beginning of 2011 there were three games I was eagerly awaiting: Arkham City, Skyrim, and Mass Effect 3. ME3 has been pushed to next year, and Skyrim is absolutely awesome and a huge leap beyond Oblivion - but Arkham City is also an incredible game. Everything Arkham Asylum did right, Arkham City improved on plus added new elements to the game. The story is great, the voice acting, the look and atmosphere of the game, the tight combat system, the creative gadgets - I have yet to find a single flaw in the game. So if Arkham City beats out Skyrim for GOTY, nobody should get their panties in a bunch: it's like getting beaten in a Battle of the Bands by the Rolling Stones. Yeah, you lost, but your competition was amazing.

None of which is to say Skyrim won't get or doesn't deserve to get GOTY; it's certainly an amazing game and if I had to choose between the two, it would be very difficult for me to decide one way or the other.

We all have opinions. What's odd is when even a confessed Morrowind freak such as myself that sees Skyrim as closer to "Halo with magic" than he wants an RPG to be, doesn't agree with you. Skyrim (IMHO) most certainly will be, and deserves to be chosen by many publishers, game sites and magazines, etc as GOTY.

Opinions opinions.
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No need, they're working on it.

It's not exactly a snap of the fingers, and it's just a video game.

Imagine if people on these forums could muster the same amount of outrage over world hunger or the fact that kids die every day in nations where they will never even learn what the inside of a book looks like.

But no, it's a video game that truly inspires any kind of reaction.

Well, considering that most people haven't had a single glitch, I'm betting most of the problems weren't, and couldn't, be detected by the QA team. Seeing how many bugs the patches have introduced to the game, some of the previously-known bugs were written off as "Impossible to fix without breaking the game even more"

Which is worse: Occassional performance slowdowns or CTDs, or a completely screwed up gaming experience? (Backward-flying, unkillable dragons that don't drop souls, no function from magic resistances at all, etc.)

There's so much in this game that a "complete" bugtesting+fixing attempt would dethrone Duke Nukem Forever as "Development Joke of the Industry".

Think of it like this: Would you like a game now that you can play that is fixed by next year? Or would you rather wait 10 more years for the game to be completely bugfixed, and ridiculously outdated?



Actually, more quests, same land area, and less tedium/"padding" in the quest lines: I enjoy the Companions and College of Winterhold far more than I enjoyed Oblivion or Morrowind's Fighters and Mages' guild quest lines.

But it's TES so NNNNNEEEEEEEERRRRRDRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

Exactly. I've been fairly frustrated with the game the last few days for various reasons, and I'm not afraid to voice my frustration, but I have to give credit where it's due. No other game I can think of has even attempted to succeed at the things this game has failed at.

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Its a video game yes something we paid for.

So yes they should fix it.

There is around ten to fifteen thousand people on here maybe twenty thousand by now you think that many could make that kind of reaction.

the game wasn't broken until the patch, it completely removed magic resistance, thats a huge deal, the quest bugs aren't that big a deal to me, they were easy to get around for the most part, but the latest patch removed a game mechanic thats essential to certain types of characters, sure if you're running around with heavy armor and tons of health its not that a big deal not having a lot of magic resistance but when you have a robe on and rely on your magic its a huge problem it does break the game, so thats the reason its broken for some of us, not a few dead people at a wedding or the quest bugs which are mostly minor. so until its fixed, it is a broken game for some of us, i removed the patch and had to start a new game offline on my xbox and i know lots of other people are doing exactly the same thing in order to keep playing it, so its still not fixed, patch 3.1 or whatever hopefull will at least get the game more back to how it was.

You paid for a product, which you have already received.

Bethesda isn't exactly obligated to make patches after release, but it makes for good business policy in order to garner consumer goodwill and build a good reputation.

It's just the same as if you bought a car off the lot as is, and it broke down two days after. The one who sold it to you has no obligation to you whatsoever, because you bought it as it was.

And it's "paid." At least demonstrate an adequate education, if you can't demonstrate sense.

i agree, devistating patch aside, this game is awesome, i've enjoyed it a lot, i was totally into it before the patch came out. so hopefully in a few days we can get back to where we were with NO backward flying dragons and magic resistance back how it should be, and i'm confident they'll adress these issues.

Great, the first person ever to whine about another person whining about another person whining about a person whining about a person mentioning the patch.

Also, the game was amazing, definitely GOTY candidate. I played about a hundred and twenty hours or so and barely got any glitches. Nothing too bad either, so it's stable as hell compared to most games this size. Now the patch on the other hand...

They should ransom the award to Skyrim for the rest of the game...

They should polish any and all titles before release. Now every company can patch and you must be one of those people that are "ok" with a half finished product or a car that breaks down in two days.

Bethesda should be obligated to have a great product and not release terrible patches. Its people like you that make any corporate structure think its ok to screw us over as consumers.

Really, a silly typo correction online on a video game forum. Come on think before you throw out childish insults not everybody can type perfectly all the time. Do not pretend you have never made a typing error.

So yes I will say on here what I want fixed because this game could have had a few more months under development.

I never understood any of this GOTY stuff. I play and like the games I like and have never figured out what its winning or losing any award means to me. I mean, i guess it's good for the company who made the game, but it's not like it means I'm awesome cuz I like a game that won an award or an idiot because I like one that didn't.

It will be game of the year, and there's nothing you can do about it.