Skyrim should not be GOTY : V - Skyrim

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:54 pm

I have played about 96 hours worth on the xbox and have done the quests you mention. The only bug I have run into was not being able to do a thieves guild side quest...

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:35 am

I have followed Bethesda for some time. Oblivion and fallout winning the GOTY somewhat set an expectation that Skyrim would go the same way.

I have put more than a hundred hours on skyrim now and the first 20-30 hours, i thought probably game of the year. But now, after this latest patch i dont think it should be rewarded with such a title.

To me, beth should not be rewarded for releasing a stunning game that is half finished with a plethora of problems.

Despite voice acting and different graphics i barely had a problem with Oblivion or Fallout (especially fallout). But skyrim the bugs and glitches are so much more noticeable and it is those little things that seem to really detract from the experience.

So here is a little list of things i have had issues with on the xbox

Have have got 6 quests that are broken and problematic
1. collect bounty from skald - not happening
2. collect "the old ways book" i have it in my inventory, took it to the guy, he wont take it, and the marker tells me to go to the place and get it. I go back and it isnt there, THATS BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE IT. I cant drop the book, because YOU CANT DROP A F*#KING QUEST ITEM
3 & 4 Cant drop or remove finns lute or the flute, quest item and they wont take them, more waste of space.
5 & 6 have done the red eagle and helm of windhelm quests twice now each.

Some other problems, like books not being on the shelves even though i just put them there, and when i try and activate the shelf, i cant access it, great, glad i didnt need that book.
Stuff that was in the house is now missing eg statue of dibella, yes i stole it but finders [censored] keepers.
Dragons still not attacking while i plunge arrows etc into its meaty little head
dragons completely without textures so that i just see a frame and can see through them.

I could go on but i wont as there are many others out there with more problems than me.

My point is simply that though skyrim is in theory a great game. It is massive and beautiful, there is no way it should be game of the year as it has too many things wrong. It is an unfinished product, just like car of the year is not the one that breaks down every 15 miles down the road, game of the year is not the one that requires two patches within the first month of release and is now worse than it started.

The GOTY should go to that manufacturer/ producer who not only set out to achieve a great game but did also achieve it.

My whinge

Amen brother

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:53 am

Battlefield 3 will get goty. It's finished, polished, and works beautifully.

I know this is OT, but some reviews reported the SP in BF3 wasn't so hot. Is that true?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 am

Stuff that was in the house is now missing eg statue of dibella, yes i stole it but finders [censored] keepers.

Maybe somebody broke into your place and stole it.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:33 am

Personally I wouldn't give it GOTY if some of my other favorite games also came out this year but there is nothing in this particular year, the year 2011, that beats Skyrim. So yeah, give it GOTY

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:07 am

Your mom should not be GOTY.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:58 am

Agree with you.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:47 pm

Users went from 270,000 on day one... down to 250,000 on day two-three... patch-steam came out DRM and it fell down to 200,000... then patch 1.2 came out.. and it has been steady at 105,000 daily players... The numbers speak for themselves... Either everyone is done, and no new people are buying it... or they can't run it. (They being 50% of the PC users.) The 150,000 missing people... which is not counting the ... 250,000 new people who apparently can't get it to run now.

I would like you to point out any game in the industry's history that has maintained its release day population for more than a few days. I would guess they pretty much all do exactly what you described in about the same time period.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:30 am

This game is easily my personal GOTY, even over the new Deus Ex game which I found absolutely sublime. Skyrim has about an average bug:feature ratio - it's just that Skyrim is so massive, you're bound to get more bugs. On the other hand, any of the multitude of problems I've had with this game has just been swept away by the insane amount of fun I've had with this game. 70 hours in and I don't think I'll be enjoying it any less in a month's time, even though I'm playing it for a couple of hours every day.

Easily this is the best title in the Elder Scrolls series, definitely gamesas's best game and possibly one of the greatest games ever (though nothing will ever top Doom, of course).*

*DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed in this post are of IanHead and not necessarily those of the gamesas forums at large.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:05 am

So...it shouldn't be game of the year because it doesn't work for you? What a spoiled brat. Grow up.

Well, what kind of deluded idiot would vote a game GOTY when it didn't work?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:43 am

Whether or not Skyrim should get GOTY or not is personal opinion......but i think that we can agree that if it doesn't, it will be primarily due to the bugs.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:25 am

:facepalm:

Its a video game yes something we paid for.

So yes they should fix it.

And I am sure they will, or will create fixes for some of the biggest problems. Glitches and bugs are annoying, but I accept the guys and girls at Bethesda are only mortals. I'm not expecting them to kill themselves to get the game patched yesterday - as long as they do it soon that is good enough for me.

There is around ten to fifteen thousand people on here maybe twenty thousand by now you think that many could make that kind of reaction.

I'm new here, but I've lurked for a couple of days... I don't really see a unified front of 5000 people, let alone 20000 (unless you are talking raw numbers in terms of registration, but I've been involved in running a couple of forums and I can safely say if you have 20000 accounts registered you definitely do not have 20000 legitimate accounts or active accounts).

Skyrim, WILL NOT be GOTY for this year... One month of sales and playing will not even quallify the game for GOTY. GOTM (Game of the month, possibly.) As for next year... I am sure this game will crop a whole new breed of fair competition that will surpass this game. That will not be that difficult. The DLC alone, and possibly offline mods will not be enough to rekindle the remaining players. Once played through, the world has no more unique content, unless you create it. If the game was constantly expanding, or dynamic (not just random)... That would hold the interest of what everyone expected. But it is none of that. It is only beautiful to look at, and ok to play. If it runs for you at all.

Woah! I've only just gotten home from work and here I am hearing a game I'm absolutely loving to bits at the moment (and can easily see being one of those games I'll come back to a number of times in the future) has contracted a terminal illness and died.

I'm truly sad, when did it pass from this world? Oh, to be taken so young... less than a month old....

But anyway, I guess I better move on - can you give me the names of some constantly expanding or dynamic games? I mean I can think of plenty of fan favorites that people play again and again but while they may have a lot in them I can think of few that would fit the way you are using those words.

Yes, you nailed it... I am the ONLY one it isn't working for... me an the 150,000 others who are not playing it now on steam.

Some stats for that, I have a feeling in my bones that it might be a slight exaggeration.

Yes, how can something be "Great" if it isn't functioning... Majority determines GOTY, not the dozen people who's systems it works flawlessly on...

Judging by the way the internet winds are blowing the majority is more behind Skyrim than not. And it probably doesn't work flawlessly on anyone system (and few games do). It hasn't on mine. But, and it is a big but, that doesn't matter to me. On the balance what bugs and glitches I have encountered have failed to outweigh the considerable enjoyment I have gotten so far. And there have been some great games this year but none of them has hit me as hard and as consistently in the enjoyment stakes as Skyrim - so it is my GOTY, whether or not it gets the official title.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:21 am

If there is a better game that deserves GOTY than ok. I haven't played anything better than Skyrim in ages.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:29 am

Your complaints are valid, but that doesn't invalidate Skyrim as a GOTY title. It is an excellent game, despite its flaws. Compared to their previous titles, this is a relatively smooth launch/game. Yes, some quests are broken but you're not the only one that has problems, just grit your teeth and get through it, there's a VAST amount of content out there for you to explore.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:37 am

Whether or not Skyrim should get GOTY or not is personal opinion......but i think that we can agree that if it doesn't, it will be primarily due to the bugs.

I can agree with that. I've encountered some but they haven't been anything game breaking (and it crashes for me less than Morrowind did), but I think I've been lucky enough to hit a sweet spot and some people have got worse.

But looking at the game, its scope, potential, content etc I only see one thing that would cost it the GOTY, and that is the bugs (but as I said, they aren't anywhere near bad enough for me for it to be anything less than my personal GOTY).

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:04 am

Your complaints are valid, but that doesn't invalidate Skyrim as a GOTY title. It is an excellent game, despite its flaws. Compared to their previous titles, this is a relatively smooth launch/game. Yes, some quests are broken but you're not the only one that has problems, just grit your teeth and get through it, there's a VAST amount of content out there for you to explore.

Hear, hear!

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:35 am

One question. How old is the Xbox360 now? This game is limited to standards set by the Xbox360 probably about ten years ago. I love the game, and hate it. Bethesda you really shouldn't have made this for the PC as an after thought. You are actually ruining your series in the PC gamers eyes.

This game is not GOTY quality. Sorry but its lack of depth and bugs is insulting to the average human.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:42 am

I personally can't wait to try Skyward Sword... I wish I had bought that and waited on Skyrim now. Now it's a potential XMas gift for me so I can't just go [censored] buy it... doh.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:45 am

Great, another person whining about the damn patch.

Great, another person complaining about someone else complaining. See how that works?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:05 am

One question. How old is the Xbox360 now? This game is limited to standards set by the Xbox360 probably about ten years ago. I love the game, and hate it. Bethesda you really shouldn't have made this for the PC as an after thought. You are actually ruining your series in the PC gamers eyes.

This game is not GOTY quality. Sorry but its lack of depth and bugs is insulting to the average human.

I'm pretty sure the XBOX 360 came out in 2005, so no, the game wasn't limited by trying to develop for 10 year old technology. But anyway (I'm playing on PC) - in what way do you see the games connection to the 360 limiting the PC version (which since to be the best version to me, but the console versions don't seem to loose to much).

So the series isn't being ruined in this PC gamers eyes (I do play games on the 360 and PS3 though - there is plenty of gaming goodness to go round).

Plus - lack of depth compared to....

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:10 am

What a joke. It's easily the best game ever made.
It has the best graphics, the best gameplay, the best story and it's completely open ended. No other game comes close.
On top of that you can mod it how you like and make it even better.

Other games are a joke by comparison.

Yes they could have included native 3D, direct x11 and better graphics for the PC. There are a few minor problems.
Stop complaining and thank Bethesda for making this game because no other company is doing what they are.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:16 am

But anyway (I'm playing on PC) - in what way do you see the games connection to the 360 limiting the PC version

Because they could be so very much more if they didn't need to run on consoles. They are limiting the tech that can be used. Battlefield 3 is the first game in a while to properly illustrate it since that engine was (mainly) developed as PC first, shoehorn/cut to console later.

The only real upside to this (imo) is its vastly extended hardware life.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:07 am

I'm pretty sure the XBOX 360 came out in 2005, so no, the game wasn't limited by trying to develop for 10 year old technology. But anyway (I'm playing on PC) - in what way do you see the games connection to the 360 limiting the PC version (which since to be the best version to me, but the console versions don't seem to loose to much).

So the series isn't being ruined in this PC gamers eyes (I do play games on the 360 and PS3 though - there is plenty of gaming goodness to go round).

Plus - lack of depth compared to....

The game doesn't really take any steps forward besides the obvious graphics one. Other than that, on the PC is just "different" than Oblivion. It actually takes as many steps backwards as forwards. The reason is probably simple. Again. Console limitations.

Its become so obvious they have reached a barrier. That is why so much depth is not included in the game. The series is basically stagnant now until new DLC's and mods come around.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:29 am

This game offers so much content, a free roaming world, ***** loads of quests/ dungeons, books, dragons, lore, and much much more. Do you see many developers make games like these????

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Id rather Bethesda kept up the good work and keep making these epic games than stop making them altogether because people cant handle waiting for patches to fix bugs. and of course there were going to be bugs. Every single elder scrolls game so far has had bugs but they have still been epic once fixed.

I understand people using the "you cant sell a faulty product" argument and I would agree with you if it were say.... a recycled Call of Duty game or another corridor shooter. But the elder scrolls? I'm willing to wait

And yes I think it deserves GOTY purely to convince other game companies to start putting more effort into their games.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:35 pm

I'm kinda thinking Gears 3 is gonna get GotY for the most part. But Skyim will surely win a few GotY's itself.