Yummy! :drool:

Again, the use of phrases like "curb stomp" implies you know how hard they will be. You don't.
Dragons get stronger just like you. There are multiple types.

TES has never been about impossible odds, ever. Never ever has TES been about something so hard it's impossible.

Maybe TES games arent for you if you think otherwise.

Let's be honest, the combat in this game isn't THAT complicated. If the developers can stomp dragons at level 1, with an extremely limited arsenal, chances are their method is something everyone can and will eventually figure out.

I agree, and Todd ran by the Dragon in the demo.

After they've played it a few months.

However we have no idea how long it takes to kill a dragon at a low level, how many are mandatory to kill, how many are quest related... etc.

And yes it's likely if you had spent hundreds of hours killing dragons you might be as good at it as the developers.

Er, what's false? The scaling in TES4 was one of the most universally disliked aspects of the game. I think it's fair to be a bit worried about it when approaching TES5.

And yes, you do make a good point. Perhaps the speedrunners found Umbra (or its new equivalent in Skyrim) and were able to power through the game at a low level using that. That I have no problem with. If that is what happened, I have no worries or complaints. If they killed a high level final boss at level 4 using godly weapons and armor - that's cool. I don't mind. Stuff like that exists for power-gamers to blast through.

However, I do mind the possibility of Alduin (or other serious boss) leveling down to 4 and being killed by a scrubby adventurer in starting armor. If that's what happened, I'm scared that the game won't really hold any challenge and that any remotely serious encounter will be trivialized due to it always scaling down to my level.

I hope you can understand that I am not bashing Skyrim... just voicing my concerns with potential level scaling.

That is implying they even had to fight more than a handleful of dragons to reach the end of the game. I am sure there are methods that allow you to skip most fights (for MQ) if you know how. It is a speedrun, they would have done that.

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You know what difficult fights are known for?

They take a long time.


That's why speedrunners ignore them, you know, they RUN!


So please stop jumping to conclusions how the battle will be too easy, when speedrunning is mostly about skipping half of the game proper itself.

What exactly is a speedrun? Sorry if i sound like a idiot.

if your definition of stomp means this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W_u4UTvk9w

then you're definitely correct my good sir.

ps: have you considered that they knew where to find powerful items and equipment or even items that do damage regardless of the player's level, like traps and such?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_fFApDyki4

Something like that

Edit: That is just an example of course

Basically trying to haul your butt through a MQ as fast as possible

Should probably add that to the first post..

speed runs are basically about running right past almost everything to get to the end as fast as possible.. in tes games its about skipping everything you can and doing whatever you can to pass those parts you cant just run by... go to youtube watch a speed run... stop worrying. 2 hours on a speed run is a good thing.

What I do in every TES game is explore and get like level 15-ish until even touching the main quest line.

Added :tops:

This Gigan character is just getting downright laughable, and is using trollish see-through arguments. /yawn
TES has never been about intense combat difficulty, ever. It's about immersion, story, and fun. You want higher difficulty? Up the games difficulty. Herp. Derp.

If I won I would have asked for a chicken pot pie.

Doesn't mean it should be possible to kill dragons on level 4 without glitches/exploits, though. Just because you know how to doesn't mean you should be able to without improving your skills.

Since someone brought up Morrowind speedruns in the previous thread, I'll say:
In Morrowind, you unavoidably had to fight Vivec and Dagoth Ur if you did a speedrun without exploits. Level 4 in Morrowind is roughly equivalent to level 10 in Skyim, as Morrowind was designed for levels 1-20 and Skyrim is for 1-50. The Morrowind speedruns I've seen exploited Fortify Intelligence potions to make better Fortify Intelligence potions, which you repeat to get buffed for thousands of points where you can then make god potions without fail.

I thought I read somewhere that when you first start seeing dragons they are younger weaker versions. Maybe they stay at that level as long as you are low level.

I remember reading a preview where the person did not encounter a dragon for the first couple of hours.