Skyrim is the Dragon Age 2 of the TES Series

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:35 am

I'm level 20 something and have 50 hours played.....

Wolves
Bears
Saber Cats
Mud Crabs (sometimes up to 7 at one time....pesky little things)
Snow Bear
Frost Trolls
Giants
Mammoths
Dragons
Falmer
Bandits
Stronger Bandits
Necromage
Vampire
Necromancer
Spiders
Giant Spiders
Skeevers
Undead bosses
Thiefs
Some black centipede thing, I forget the name.....
Some big black centipede thing, that killed me in one shot, forget the name
Dwemers Machines
Drauger


and variations of all those....

OP must of rushed through his game.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:13 am

To me Skyrim is more like Mass Effect. ME2 fixed the gameplay but dumbed down everything else


its even more an apt observation when you take into account that ME2 removed most customisation options.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:33 am

Please enlighten me how Skyrim is more complex than Morrowind? I really don't think there is anything to support such an argument.

Hmmm...
...there's this.....
http://www.sweetopia.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rainbow-ribbon-300x450.jpg
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:08 am

GOD I HATE FAN-BOYS! Not you, OP, all the responses.

I agree with many of your point, especially the one about no real consequences with the choices you make. I mean, I am a high ranking stormcloak and I can waltz into an imperial city with my officer get-up on. That cheapens my decision to become a stormcloak, gives no worth to the decision I made. It's the same thing with any of the guilds. I can literally join any and all of them at any point in the game.

I FAILED at pickpocketing the ring for the thieves guild and he was like, "Oh, that's okay, I'll let you join anyway. Just come talk to me and do this BS quest and you're in."
All you have to do to join the college is cast any level spell, and if you don't know it, she gives it to you!

I mean, I still think the game is amazing, but there is a lot that should have been better.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:26 pm

I'm level 20 something and have 50 hours played.....

Wolves
Bears
Saber Cats
Mud Crabs (sometimes up to 7 at one time....pesky little things)
Snow Bear
Frost Trolls
Giants
Mammoths
Dragons
Falmer
Bandits
Stronger Bandits
Necromage
Vampire
Necromancer
Spiders
Giant Spiders
Skeevers
Undead bosses
Thiefs
Some black centipede thing, I forget the name.....
Some big black centipede thing, that killed me in one shot, forget the name
Dwemers Machines
Drauger


and variations of all those....

OP must of rushed through his game.

I think you forgot Ice Wraiths. :P Also have you fought a giant dwemer robot? (Forgot the name.) Those things are bad ass. Edit: Also Werewolves.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:36 am

so... who really cares every game is like that... and at least they look different... and Dragon Age 2 and DA: Origins has like 5 dragons between both those games... Skyrim has infinite.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:40 am

Hmmm...
...there's this.....
http://www.sweetopia.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rainbow-ribbon-300x450.jpg


To which I parry with this:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_36_Lessons_of_Vivec
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:13 pm

The only way you could compare Skyrim to DA2 is if 90% of Skyrim took place in Whiterun, then used one of the smaller caves to represent every place that is not Whiterun, then added magically appearing enemies that drop out of the sky, then removed any semblance of worthy story, with paper thin sidekicks.

OK, finally found something where Skyrim and DA2 are on somewhat similar grounds, but at least you can equip your companions in Skyrim. :P
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:48 am

Dragon age svcked hard, first and the second crap story, and that homo companion is just what the f... that game kept me for two days and I regret every cent I paid for that [censored]. :gun: :gun: :gun: :brokencomputer: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:34 pm

You've obviously have not played Skrim nor Dragon Age 2 -_-
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:44 am

I actually agree with the OP for most of his points.

Also, I hate it when the NPCs walk in the rain like nothings there. NPCs in The Witcher 2 not only have their own schedules, but they also react to the world, instead of only the player in Skyrim. NPCs in The Witcher 2 will actually move to cover when it's raining. But I guess it's probably useless in Skyrim even if the NPCs do move to cover, as rain droplets and snow flakes still clip through the covers.

Most npcs in The Witcher 2 lived in the tavern, drinking and talking rubbish. They also had random names. The rest walked around town doing nothing.
Only butchers, blacksmiths and salesmen had schedules.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:30 am

Ugh ... So many people that didn't read. Seriously, guys, (especially the first 4 or 5 posters) try reading his explanation and actually responding to it, instead of just saying, "Oh you no like skyrim? You stupid! Lol." I swear, these new members really annoy me sometimes.

I get what you're saying,by the way, OP. It does feel like skyrim is lacking some polish that could've made it a perfect game. And, of course, the design decision of simplification is a bit disappointing.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:44 pm

Please enlighten me how Skyrim is more complex than Morrowind? I really don't think there is anything to support such an argument.

Are you joking?

For one, people actually speak words. Secondly, my character doesn't glide around the world like a [censored] figure skater. Third, the wildlife, dynamic weather, eco-systems, realistic feeling towns, etc. Should I keep going?

It's funny because you ridicule someone for saying Skyrim is better, and yet, [i]you[/i don't even share anything to support such an argument.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:39 am

Are you guys seriously bashing this person because they’re giving an opinion about the game? While I don’t agree with them, this is still one of the best write ups I’ve seen about Skryim in a long time on here. I can actually understand what he’s trying to get at. Almost everything he said makes sense and is true. While I still have a lot of fun playing the game it doesn’t mean the next person does. I enjoyed the read, thanks for sharing your opinion.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:11 pm

To which I parry with this:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_36_Lessons_of_Vivec

"Then the Barons and the Demiprince joined together into a pillar of fighting styles terrible to behold and they danced before the egg and its learning image.
'Look, little Vehk, and find the face behind the splendor of my bladed carriage, for in it is delivered the unmixed conflict path, perfect in every way. What is its number?'
It is said the number is the number of birds that can nest in an ancient tibrol tree, less three grams of honest work, but Vivec in his later years found a better one and so gave this secret to his people.
'For I have crushed a world with my left hand,' he will say, 'but in my right hand is how it could have won against me. Love is under my will only.'
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI."

.................LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:39 am

I agree with the op on most of the points or at least with the general idea. :D

The examples on how the game would be more creative are the only things I don't agree on, since I would prefer if Bethesda sticked with creatures that at least somewhat felt Elder Scrolls-like.
I don't think that for example a "Water Serpent" has ever been mentioned and in my opinion such a creature wouldn't fit in well with that particular moment you mentioned.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:30 pm

This thread is the ET Game of TES posts:

http://youtu.be/2DTjLG3usQo?t=2m8s

OMG I remember that game when it was new!
Ahhh good times...
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:40 am

Shut up, you are boring. I'm sick of all this pathetic whining. No one cares if you dislike the game, if that's the case then leave the forums, uninstall Skyrim and go cry in a corner about how Bethesda abused you.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:53 pm

It can be argued rather easily that Skyrim/DA2/Insert RPG of choice can be broken down into a "mindless dungeon crawler". As with you being entitled to your opinion others are as well, mine being that it's the way all the features you mentioned as negatives are handled that make the game in terms of quality and Bethesda are second to none in terms of world building. Even with the flaws found in the worlds. The fact, yes fact, that just about every single dungeon in the game has similarities mostly limited to the textures used in them is a huge step up for the variety of the TES series. The writing, characters and everything else is subjective. That being said where ever your cynicism came from I truly wish you the best in overcoming it. You are completely entitled to your opinion however flawed and borderline pedantic it can appear. The fact that you're mentioning your join date of the forums as a greater validation of your opinion only furthers my case. Happy gaming where ever you find it though.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:07 am

"Then the Barons and the Demiprince joined together into a pillar of fighting styles terrible to behold and they danced before the egg and its learning image.
'Look, little Vehk, and find the face behind the splendor of my bladed carriage, for in it is delivered the unmixed conflict path, perfect in every way. What is its number?'
It is said the number is the number of birds that can nest in an ancient tibrol tree, less three grams of honest work, but Vivec in his later years found a better one and so gave this secret to his people.
'For I have crushed a world with my left hand,' he will say, 'but in my right hand is how it could have won against me. Love is under my will only.'
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI."

.................LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.


Vivec said, 'Reach heaven by violence then.'

So to quiet his mind the Hortator chose from the Fight Racks an axe. He named it and moved on to the first moon.

There, Nerevar was greeted by the Parliament of Craters, who knew him by title and resented his presence, for he was to be a ruling king of earth and this was the lunar realm. They shifted around him in a pattern of entrapment.

'The moon does not recognize crowns or scepters,' they said, 'nor the representatives of kingdoms below, lion or serpent or mathematician. We are the graves of those that have migrated and become ancient countries. We seek no Queens or thrones. Your appearance is decidedly solar, which is to say a library of stolen ideas. We are neither tear nor sorrow. Our revolution succeeded in the manner that is was written. You are the Hortator and unwelcome here.'

And so Nerevar carved at the grave ghosts until he was out of breath and their Parliament could make no new laws.

He said, 'I am not of the slaves that perish.'

Of the members of Parliament only a few survived the Hortator's attack.

A surviving Crater said, 'Appropriation is nothing new. Everything happens of itself. This motif is by no means unassociated with hero myths. You have not acted with the creative impulse; you fall below the weight of destiny. We are graves but not coffins. Know the difference. You have only dug more and supplied no ghosts to reside within. Central to your claim is the predominance of frail events. To be judged by the earth is to sit on a throne of wonder why. Damage us more and you will find naught but the absence of our dead.'

The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

AE ALTADOON
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:16 am

Dragon Age 2 was bad because it changed gameplay styles completely from what made Dragon Age 1 so great. Skyrim is still, at its core, a TES game, even with being stripped down of the number crunching that Morrowind and Oblivion had.

IMO, Skyrim just stripped down to the root of everything, and to me, that makes the game much better. Less fiddeling with numbers, and more time spent playing the game.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:21 am

Are you guys seriously bashing this person because they’re giving an opinion about the game?

Absolutely, yes.

Because some complaints are as if someone buys a car and then complains because when its under the sun the exterior gets too hot.

HE SAID THERE SHOULD BE MERMAIDS.

What in the...
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:10 am

People should try reading his actual post, perhaps even give their own reasons why he is right or wrong.
Currently 90% of this thread is full of "You're an idiot" posts...

That being said, I agree with some parts of the OP.
The variety is very lacking in my opinion. Entire Whiterun Hold is filled with 3-4 types of flowers in total, maybe a few mushrooms ontop of that, everywhere you look there's just mountain flowers, tundra cotton and lavendar. And if you decide to run to Solitude and pick every herb on the way (I did that) the only additional one you get is Nightshade, instead of the cotton. Yes, I may exaggerate a little, but my point still stands. Sure, they added insects that you can catch, but even with those it still looks really bland.
The diversion in monsters I honestly expected to be better than Oblivion, it's not really, but I can live with that. I'll just hope modders add in simple wildlife such as boars.
And yes, there doesn't seem to be a big diversion in outfits. And I don't mean armour, just outfits in general.

Luckily, most of this can be modded in, assuming there's modders with the same ideas as me...

HE SAID THERE SHOULD BE MERMAIDS.


Who the hell cares? He might've taken that as an example as he couldn't think of anything else. You can still get the idea of his post without nitpicking over all the minor examples.
I don't agree with the mermaids and dwemer serpents at all, but I don't feel the need to brand his entire post useless because he mentioned them.
It's about as pathetic as the people who immediately derail a topic as soon as CoD/WoW/IGN are mentioned.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:36 pm

No, just no. Skyrim is so much better than oblivion its not even funny.

The comparison isn't valid. Dragon age 2 had better combat, but poorer story, characters.

Skyrim has better combat, better story, and better characters.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:34 pm

This is more of an overreaction to some of the more disappointing aspects of the game and I think the OP realizes this. That's fine, at least you let off some steam in a somewhat constructive manner. I don't think Morrowind or Oblivion really incentivized RP any more than Skyrim. The limitations Morrowind had, I think, lead to players having to fill in some of the gaps and use their imaginations a bit. I think Bethesda has just fleshed out their worlds to such an extent that it becomes more difficult to easily fit your unique character into it. The best advice I can give is to just accept being the Dovahkinn and enjoy the game for what it is: a fantasy simulator that has just become more specific than previous games. A lot of the fun lies in just abandoning ideas of what your character is and just figuring it out as you go.
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