I have to agree to an extent with the OP.

It won't prevent other publishers from developing RPGs, but from what I have seen so far, Skyrim looks like it will be monumental and epic to the point of reducing many subsequent games to insignificance.

By the time FO4 and TES6 are released, we will likely be in the next generation.

Who knows? I'm sure they're planning something though. They'll wanna plan a console release around the same time Microsoft does. But haven't spoken a word about it yet.

Sony keeps touting the 10 year console lifecycle. Due to numerous reasons, this generation has been longer than the past few. Maybe they'll push their strategy to 12-15?

I have a feeling the next cycle will be the last (at least as we know it), but that's another topic all together.

Sony kept the PS2 going for 10 years, but they still released the PS3 after about 6. I believe Sony will support the PS3 until late 2016, but that doesn't mean they won't release a new console in that time, according to the past.

That's right...but again this generation is proving to be longer that past generations so I wouldn't expect an announcement too soon. Especially now considering that the PS3 is coming into it's own as a platform in the past 1-2 years (that last part is an opinion).

U mad? :mellow:

Bethesda game studios are pretty damn good. but they are not gods, or demigods.altho they seem to be pretty close to the limit of what these consoles can do, we're not there yet, but maybe in like 4-5 years.

Hell, there isn't to this day a medieval style RPG as good as Oblivion on the current console.

Uh oh, you better change this or else gpstr will come in here and ask you for a source...

Also, what the hell? Why a 2015 launch for the next xbox? Supposedly the PS4 is coming out at the end of 2012 and by 2015, the PC will be at the point where the hardware will allow us to use CGI rendering in real time in video games.

This.

While I think Skyrim will be a great game and RPG, I don't think it'll be the bestest RPG to have ever RPG-ed before in the history of RPGs. Something tells me that it won't be able to beat some of the well renown classics, and even if it does, we don't know what the future has in store for RPGs. For all we know, Skyrim could be nothing compared to RPGs 5-20 years from now. Perhaps even longer, or shorter, than that.


To be honest, I don't see this happening for awhile. At least until hardware is able to meet up with the theoretical requirements of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_6, which will combine both raster graphics (what we use now) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_tracing_(graphics) (which is as photorealistic as 3D graphics can get). And according to Carmack himself, the hardware capable of handling it may not be around even in the next generation.

One can only dream, though.

Skyrim will be extremely awesome but there are other games looking very promising like: The Witcher 2 , Diablo III , Dungeon Siege III , Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning , Might & Magic Heroes VI , Neverwinter.

I don't think is "The End of the modern RPG" my most anticipated game of course :tes:

I'm not saying Skyrim will be the best RPG ever made forever, only for a little while. And I don't think the current consoles are capable of being utlized to a degree greater than they are for Skyrim. Hence, new consoles will be necessary to make a "better" game.

Tes games are a different type of RPG's all together.

where did you heard of that cause i think its absolutely not true.

next thing i have to say is what i say is not backed. its a quote from an article by a developper. but there is one thing to know. 2015 is way too long for the next cycle.

Well if the 2015 deadline for the next generation of consoles holds true, that's plenty of time for a game company to produce a game that will compete with Skyrim. Including FO4. And while the screenshots for the game certainly look good, it still remains to be seen whether it will be a good game or not. It could end up being the most bug ridden piece of crap that's ever been released, and everyone hates it. Graphics alone aren't going to sell it if everything else about it svcks. And we can't know how that works out until the game is actually released. Not that it really matters to me though, as I don't play on consoles anyway. I just find it rather foolish to say that this game will spell the end of all RPGs until 2015. That's still a long ways away, and companies aren't going to back down from a chance to make money simply because they'll have to compete with Skyrim's graphics quality. If Bethesda will be able to pull off superb graphics on the current consoles, so can other companies, and 4 years is going to be plenty of time to come up with something. Most games these days only have a 2 year production cycle, so a company like Bioware etc. could have 2 full releases that rival Skyrim's graphics before the next generation of consoles comes out.

This. TES is one of the few "pure" RPGs left and it is definitely the best. Most other RPGs are just hybrid RPGs that has some RPG aspects.

what do you mean by the last cycle? you mean after the next cycle no more consoles ever?

Well I don't know where he heard about the Wii 2 (I didn't look it up because I could care less about the Wii) but the PS4 has been slated for Q4 of 2012 and if the xbox 720 is going to be 3 years late, that's really going to hurt the xbox.

But it doesn't svck. And not just graphics, everthing the Xbox 360 is capable of is being pushed.

O_o.... I'll buy whatever RPG I want no matter how satisfied I am with Skyrim.

Cool story bro.

It was quoted by Chris Lewis, Microsoft's European head in 2010. He mentioned then that the 360 was half way through it's life cycle, making 2015 the next release. Look up Xbox 360 on the Wiki, there's a number of references there indicating that 2015 will be the next release date.

Actually, it makes perfect sense, as both Microsoft and Sony have been touting that they wanted their current gen consoles to last for at least 10 years. And seeing as the Xbox 360 has only been around for almost 6, with it being released in 2005, and 2015 is about 4 years away, then the life cycle of the Xbox 360 will have been completed by the time the new console releases.

Of course, the supposed release of Nintendo's newest console in 2012 can always "persuade" Sony and Microsoft to come out with their next gen systems earlier. Especially if the new Nintendo console is supposed to be a generational leap forward graphically when compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3.

Anyways though, I think we need to get back on topic here. This is about how Skyrim is supposed to be the "RPG of RPGs", not future console generations.

I agree the 360 still has a number of years to go and that's good for me but not good for the PC gamers. Heck they'll get DirectX 12 or 13 before the consoles upgrade.

I found this thread humerus (as intended)

Well this is good news, that's the first I've heard of it. I'm glad to see that Hasbro and Atari finally settled their lawsuit. While I've enjoyed Bethesda's foray's into the swords and sorcery genre for the most part, they don't hold a candle next to D&D games IMO.