Beth seems to "improvise" their TES games. Evident from the changes from game to game that indicates incomplete building.
Skyrim is definatly not the last. TES is Bethesda flagship, and they would never abandon it.

I see what you did there...

but the empire is crumbeling.


the technology would be there for tes 6 to do all of tamriel in an epic story that involves the player forming alliances with every country and faction. think new vegas- but an entire continent rather than 3 factions supported by smaller ones. think striking a deal with the nords dumner to take back morrowind from argonia and join skyrim and morrowind together to make one single country run by the nords and dumner coexisting peacefully . but first the player would have to unite/restore the dumner great houses/destroy the great houses and unite the nord clans together. after this the player could try to lead the imperial army against valenwood and elsywere (who are fighting each other) and break up the high elf/wood elf alliance. with the empire fubar then the player could call upon the dumner/nord alliance to annex the rest of the empire and remain at peace with hammerfell and high rock.


or the player could become a powerfull necromancer and just invade a few settlements. or just turn the empire into anarchy. the expansion could be about getting the new empire or whatever is left on tamriel to defend tamriel from akavir- with the possibility of moving into a counter attack upon the new continent


i probably didnt explain it clearly- but its meant to be insanely complex

If I've learned anything from movies (and I may not have), it's that you never run out of bad guys.

I think the timeline ends when they stop making huge amounts of money from these games Any profitable game franchise generally continues until it stops making money, or the devs know they could make more money elsewhere.

Yeah I think Deathwing would... Oh wait wrong game.

Unless they was sinked first bliviongate:

When I have kids, and they grow up, I want to be able to show them how fantasy games should be made. So, that'll be... TES X?

Indeed, I somehow doubt that Bethesda had some grand plan for the entire series all along, while Skyrim might be made out like it's what everything the events from past Elder Scrolls games were leading up to, when Bethesda created Arena, it seems unlikely that they planned for the events of it to eventually lead up to the return of dragons and Alduin trying to eat the world, especially since I suspect that at the time, Bethesda had not even concieved a being called Alduin. I'd imagine Skyrim will just be another episode in the series, I'm not sure where the series will go from there, of course, but I don't believe that Skyrim must be the last game in it. I'm sure Bethesda can still come up with new ideas for threats worthy of a new Elder Scrolls game.

My guess is that Bethesda will keep the Elder Scrolls series going as long as Bethesda still exists and the Elder Scrolls is still successful, and if Bethesda ever vanished from the face of the industry, another company might end up buying the license and make their own take on the Elder Scrolls setting, just as Bethesda did with Fallout. And while I suppose new games don't need to succeed Skyrim chronologically, it would be easier to set them after it so as not to raise questions as to why the events of a future game were never mentioned in a past game.

I doubt it'll be the end just because it's where the current story ends. God forbid someone at Bethesda could write more story. That's like finishing the 1st ES game and saying that since the world is saved and everything is ok then the series must be over.

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Lmao I jsut got the idea for a character who looks identicle to Ron Jeremy.

Im a little ambidextrous (what was that word again) and read things differently when im tired and it looked like someone said sumthing about Ron Jeremy on the previous page.

No. I hope this game won't be the last of the epic series.

Hey guys, great news.

Todd was just rummaging around in his basemant looking for his old hungry-hungry-hippos game and found some more of those old scroll things.

What?

Think globally. Title :The elder scrols" can bring a lot of money to developers at least for next 20 years And i don't think they will stop development until we explore the whole tamriel

There's too much money in the Elder Scrolls to stop at V. Would be a poor business decision.

And hopefully Nirn as a whole

According to the game lore there were 3 great empires before the one that we were saving in Oblivion (the first being that of the Ayleids). All of them collapsed, some of them due to preternatural forces. Skyrim is really just the end of the third era, and the start of another. There's tons of things that can happen afterwards in the fourth era if Alduin doesn't get his way.

Well,indeed Elderscrolls has money potential,so I don't see a stop soon.However,as they continue altering the game to become a stronger money magnet,the question is how longer will YOU individually continue to be able to call it Elder Scrolls.Bethesda will gain more than it loses anyway.

I highly doubt this will be the last game chronolgically. They could make games based on NPC's dicussions, like "Syndicates of Wizards led a boycott of Imperial goods in the Land of the Altmer". This could be the basis of the main story of a new TES game, maybe these wizards are Mythic Dawn or some over cult who worships some evil Daedra. If this is indeed the last game chroniclogically then prequels are also a great idea as long as TES doesen't turn into a modern FPS RPG I'm good.

There are several provinces left to explore! I don't think Bethesda will end TES - ever! They're only exaggurating a bit, I think. :biggrin:

Well, it depends on how you see it. I agree that it seems VERY unlikely that the plan was fleshed out from Arena to Skyrim at the very beginning. But there is another aspect to it. I think the idea of every game leading up to Skyrim might also be a parallell to how Bethesda feels about Skyrim, in the sense that a specific game that would contain the important stuff Skyrim will have was in the back of their heads from early on, while designing the games . The reason I think this: Dragons.

Dragons are a HUGE deal, they aren't like any other creature in the TES World. The possibility of adding proper dragons to the game has been discussed since the beginning, and I remember the untrue rumors that there was a real-sized dragon somewhere in the Illiac Bay in Daggerfall. I'm sure I wasn't the only one running around the mountains looking for it. In Oblivion, the avatar fighting Dagon was shaped as a dragon. I think the devs have been waiting for the technology to improve to the point where they could introduce actual dragons into a TES-game in a way that would do dragons justice as the awesome beings they are. While they waited for this to become a possibility, they made TES III and IV, the last in which they at least had a dragon-shaped being in the end, even though the player couldn't interact with it. When Skyrim is launched, Bethesda has finally given their fans what they have been craving since the beginning of the series; proper dragons that can be interacted with (ie fought), represented in a proper way to fit with the lore. So to them, every game so far has been leading up to the game where they FINALLY get to give us dragons - and as such, it makes sense to give the same impression lore-wise as well. So they make up a story that fits with the introduction of dragons and the events of the previous games.

(The one in Redguard obviously doesn't count...)

Just because at the end of TES V you might beat the dragons in Skyrim, doesnt mean they could to the other provinces, or even get the backup of Akavir, theres so many possiblities with the TES universe.

If that was a reply to my post, I never said that I thought TES V would be the end of the series. I don't. I do, however, think Skyrim has been long anticipated by Bethesda while designing the other games, and that they led up to it because of that.

I'm not really sure that's the case. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they had it (or something like it) in mind when they were making Oblivion, but I really don't think they intended to tie things together like this before that. The way they're doing it seems more than a little clumsy (inventing a prophecy that retroactively includes what happened in the last four games despite not being mentioned in any of them).

Not that I don't think it's a good idea to tie things together and clear the way for a bit of a fresh start, but the way they're going about it seems to indicate something they came up with more recently rather than something they planned at least a decade in advance.