Skyrim - too good to be true?

Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:25 pm

I think my expectations were way too high, and now they've sunk down to reality.

I loved Morrowind and Oblivion so much despite their flaws, and really thought Skyrim was going to be better than both - taking all the great features of both, improving upon the flaws of both, and making a new game in a new and interesting setting that was going to be the best open-world RPG to date. What I didn't forsee was all the additions I don't like, such as children, finisher moves, the 3D map, marriages, perks, etc. and all the changes and removals of things that were important to me in past TES games. It also didn't cross my mind that Bethesda would even think to go down the streamlining and accessibility route, given the extremely negative reaction other games have received recently for doing the same.

Whatever though. I'm looking forward to Skyrim, and i'm just going to enjoy it for what it is. If I expect it to be better than past TES games, i'll probably be disappointed. If I expect it not to be, I can only be right or pleasantly surprised.


Don't worry. It'll be a great friggin awesome game. ;)
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Nancy RIP
 
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:54 pm

I think it will be great
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Janette Segura
 
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:48 pm

No, it won't, no game has.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:23 pm

Will it live up to the hype of being a great game and probably the best game of the year?
YES

Will it live up to the hype of being the best TES game yet?
YES

Will it live up to the hype of being the best RPG of all time?
YES

Will it live up to the hype of the Spanish Meristation article?
Probably not.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:23 pm

Will Skyrim be The Best Rpg of all time? YES.
Why? my first ever Rpg was Oblivion i played it when i was 9 and its still for my opinion the best Rpg there is...
For the haters: Plz tell me 1 game that deliever any expirence of an open world like oblivion...none.
Do u know why there are so little amount of open world Rpg games?
Because NO one can reach even to 1/100 of the expirence delievered by the Rpg games of Bethesta.
They are - One of the Firsts/or the Firsts - to do an open world Rpg game and they keeps doing those games
For almost 20 years which 3 games in the same decade won the Best Game Of The Year Award.
So i think they know whats they're doing, im f*cking exited from Skyrim...and for the graphics...
I will leave it an open question: Why do u think Bethesta is hiding the Pc version of the game for so long?
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:38 pm

Skyrim will be the greatest game ever and that's an end of it!
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:48 pm

I had no doubts at all. Then I read this thread - and now I'm concerned :confused:

I know that Skyrim will be a great game, but now I'm trying to be realistic about such as the economic of Skyrim, being able to burn houses to the ground, etc.
I've been very excited about Skyrim, and I still am, but I don't want to be disappointed when the game is released. Though I don't believe I will be. I don't know.
I'm confused.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:56 pm

Will Skyrim be The Best Rpg of all time? YES.

You ever tried out Planescape Torment, Fallout 1/2 or Deus Ex?
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:14 am

You ever tried out Planescape Torment, Fallout 1/2 or Deus Ex?


I have heard great things about Planescape, but haven't played it yet. I've watched some gameplay footage of the new Deus Ex, but it doesn't look very interesting to me - seems like too many cut scenes.

I bought FO1 & 2 during the recent Steam sale. I started FO1 but haven't had a chance to play very much.

In my view, more than stats, separate armor slots, etc., the aspect of pen-and-paper RPGs that I have always enjoyed most is the complete open sandbox aspect of the game world. Obviously there are some technical limitations, but in my view, Bethesda has come the closest to recapturing that feeling of pen-and-paper RPGs with Oblivion and Morrowind.

If I enjoy Skyrim more than these two, then it will become my favorite videogame RPG by default.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:59 am

I just realized: what we've heard so far makes this sound almost, well, too good to be true.

It sounds flat out amszing, but do you think Skyrim will live up to the hype?



I don't think anything can live up to it's hype. We seem to have a dynamic environment, economy, and AI. We've been given little descriptions and examples on what these can do. Hype is when we take those facts and make them look perfect or better than what it actually is. The game will be fun, and I think many of those things will be great to see and experience, but it's a video game and will never be perfect, but it can be a great game. A video game, an open-world video game specifically, tries to represent something that is real in a fantastical or interesting way to better push the story and emphasize the whole point of the experience. Dynamic Snow build up is a representation of how snow acts in our reality, it can be highly detailed but in the end it will never act as real snow, at least not at this point in time. There is a script behind it, a degree of certainty that we don't experience in reality. It's controlled and presented in a way that allows the main point of the game to shine through, which is to put on the role of a character and build upon that character in a different world. We define our characters by exploring this world, interacting with it's characters, and progressing though a series of stories or quests. We need to absorb the facts as they are and wait to actually play the game to see if those elements are entertaining and better emphasize the core experience or purpose.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:46 pm

I believe skyrim will be a great game. I do not think it will be ground breaking, it won't do anything crazy and new (aside maybe dragons), but none the less it will be one of those games that does everything so fantastic it can't be disputed as an amazing game. at least 9/10 and imo a very strong canidate for GOTY
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:49 am

You people remember Spore? Did that live up to the hype?

They did show extensive gameplay previews, didn't they?
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:15 am

bethesda hasn't let down before

See Oblivion: Radiant AI
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:47 am

but bethesda hasn't let down before

Wait, what?

Oh, you're new here. That explains everything.

P.S: Not trying to bash BGS here, but "never let us down" sounds inaccurate. A bit. I don't really want to bring up examples *cough* radiant AI *cough*, but they are not a completely fail-safe company.

Edit: Oh well I'll be damned, ninja'd :toughninja:
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:03 am

See Oblivion: Radiant AI

lol, I googled "radiant AI" and look what I found

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=427928
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:48 pm

The problem with the radient AI they developed for Oblivion was it led to everyone killing each other for various petty reasons, forcing them to water it down. Hopefully they've been able to improve on that since then and give us a better AI that doesn't need ot watered down to avoid major issues, but anyway.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:26 pm

I don't think the economy thing is going to be as deep as it's made out to be. And the AI looks pretty laughable still (see my sig). But it's an ES game, it's going to be good no matter what.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:00 pm

It will be the best game of all time! :goodjob:
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:49 am

I don't think the economy thing is going to be as deep as it's made out to be. And the AI looks pretty laughable still (see my sig). But it's an ES game, it's going to be good no matter what.

You have to remember it is just a game. Just because a bandit was sliced in the throat and still lived does mean the game is going to be bad. Skyrim will be an awesome RPG.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:50 pm

The problem with the radient AI they developed for Oblivion was it led to everyone killing each other for various petty reasons, forcing them to water it down. Hopefully they've been able to improve on that since then and give us a better AI that doesn't need ot watered down to avoid major issues, but anyway.


Yeah I think the problem with Oblivion (and most RPGs for that matter) is that when two NPCs (or a PC and an NPC) have a conflict, the only possible way to resolve it is: fight each other to the death.

There needs to be things like non-lethal duels, subduing and taking of prisoners, and so forth. The non-lethal bar brawls is a good start in Skyrim. Maybe in a game in the far future, we'll be able to do things like have a debate to resolve disagreements.

I'm still quite skeptical of this whole Radiant Story thing. I think it'll be Skyrim's Radiant AI.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:12 am

To be too good to be true, it would have to not be true no?

Skyrim is true,......does that mean its not that good?
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:47 pm

I doubt there will be fires burning down houses, the environment so dynamic, and an economy even existing at all. Everything else I believe. The AI's have been possible for many years. See The Sims games for example.


This ^
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:51 am

You have to remember it is just a game. Just because a bandit was sliced in the throat and still lived does mean the game is going to be bad. Skyrim will be an awesome RPG.


Oh no doubt, I'll be buying it the first day for sure, and I'll love it. But it's 2011, and from what we saw of the AI (specifically my first sig pic) is just not acceptable in a AAA title. ANd it's also not too difficult to implement locational damage... games on my iPhone have that.

But don't get me wrong, it'll be a fantastic game. I just think there are certain aspects of it that could have been done much better.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:58 pm

It is all by and large the hype machine at work. I've made my case on several of the new "features" One has already been confirmed to be true. Radiant Story is a developer tool and not a mystical in depth quest maker. It is simply designed for ease of developement. I get the feeling that a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:19 pm

from what we saw of the AI (specifically my first sig pic) is just not acceptable in a AAA title


what exactly is going on in your first sig pic?
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