Yay!!!!
In yo face, BioWARE!
:flamethrower: :flamed:
:tes:
About the tread Im even MORE certain than Todd is!!! :deal:

Careful what u say you might jynx us.

After reading your post I realized how sad but true it really is.

alway found it a funny theory that the end of the maya calender supose to anounce the end of the world
as i belief the maya sighn for dissaster or end things is a total difrent symbol that doesnt show at the end of the calander its just a change of era

but back tot he topic i think 11-11-11 will be release as i think its already a save to call deadline as they ere on elder scroll V for some wile and think the game its self is already pritty much done they just say 11-11-11 so that they got for them self a date of wene they begon that then atleast the game should be finished
and that they have someting to give to the fans
its like you go on a 3 year job that you know will be done in 3 years but just to be incase you say it will be done in 4 years
thats what i think but i can be to optemistic on the matter but there is only 1 way to find out and thats just wait till 11-11-11
no use in creating ghost storys of things that might happand that not even happand or to be sure to happen

Skyrim would imo be the game of the year of both 2011 and 2012, it will be the game of the ps3 and xbox360 that's for sure. Not sure about game of the PS1 though, but very close.

Good review doesn't mean it wins an Award.



Let's just say, I have stacked the deck heavily in my favor already. And, I'll leave it at that.


Only Awards The Witcher II are eligible for (Assuming Skyrim comes out on time) are.

PC Exclusive of the Year.
Action/Adventure of the Year.


Not RPG of the Year, not Game of the year. Hell, being a PC exclusive automatically disqualifies it from owning a general "Game of the Year" Title, at least from anyone other than PCgamer.

PS1? Don't you mean PC?

I wouldn't really say that.....ME3 was its main competitor in the RPG element, but their are other genres ready to try to take the gold from the champion. There is just so much competition this year, and its not funny either......I am going to be broke because of it :cryvaultboy:

Crash Bash ain't for PC my friend.

Or actually, nowadays it is.. lol

I think he was being sarcastic/funny.

Obviously you are a fan of TES games, and I am not here to change your mind, but I'll tell you, don't be so sure. The Witcher was a GREAT RPG, and a true RPG at that, as the many decisions you made in game greatly affected the story.. you'd make what seemed like a minor decision early in the game, then 3 quarters of the game later, it'd come back and bite you in the behind.

I see a bunch of posts here of what things people would like to see in Skyrim: fishing, hair physics, romance, interior lighting changing depending on time of day, etc etc, even vanilla bouncing briasts , all of that is in the original Witcher. As far as graphics, if you compare the Witcher with say, Oblivion, Witcher was a much better looking game than Oblivion in every way possible: face models, meshes, animations, etc. Combat was also way better in Wicther than in Oblivion: different styles/finishing moves for weapons, different situations... You had monsters galore, far more than Oblivion.
You can also mod the Witcher.

Now, Oblivion and Witcher were VERY different games in that Witcher is based on a character from a series of books, so the game's context and theme reflects that.. nevertheless, it was a very entertaining and very re playable game, and Witcher 2 is a highly anticipated game as well.

One last thing about the Witcher 2 and the developers: they are offering digital distribution through their own digital distributor (GOG) and it is DRM free! They also offered a patch to remove DRM from Witcher 1.

It's not that I don't think the Witcher II won't be a great game, It's that I know it's not eligible for "RPG of the year" or "Game of the Year" simply because it's PC exclusive. A true, landmark game is available to the widest audience.


It would literally have to be groundbreaking to stand a chance, and even then, it's a small chance. From everything I've seen, it's not very groundbreaking at all, and I'm going to ping it's metacritic at around 8.2.(Critical)


I also just checked out the latest environment trailer. And seriously, how pretentious can this game get? "All images are in-game" they don't even look that good. Not ugly, but hardly anything I'd take a second glance at.

@ The_ugly_guy_at_the_Store

1. The Witcher is not an action-adventure.
2. It is a PC game first and foremost, but most probably it will come to consoles.
3. Metacritic at around 8.2? As I said, we'll see the reviews in less than two weeks.
4. If you think that this graphics "don't even look that good", you should check your eyes. http://www.gamestar.de/_misc/images/original.cfm?pk=2215961
5. Your arguments are very subjective, so in this case you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Think what you want to, this doesn't make sense. Peace

What? :blink:

I certainly don't think it will win those (Skyrim will :tes: ), but W2 is certainly eligible and will probably win its fair share of those as well.

Fan of TW2 I take it. Hopefully it does make it to consoles, but I have a feeling it'll be a gimped version unfortunately.

Haters gonna hate, as always.


I never said The Witcher 2 was an Action Adventure, it may win an award for such as a "nod" however, since genre classification is so malleable.

Metacritic 8.2, that's right. And you will see (probably about a month or two after release, as hype-blindness wears)

The graphics don't look that good. They look better than Skyrim, no doubt about that, but hardly a technological marvel. Also, maybe 5% of the people who play the game will have it even look it's best, even less in a playable fashion.

My arguments are actually not subjective if you understand how gaming media works. There is a lack of a true, standardized award system based on the merit of a game. The fact of the matter is, if you award a "Best game evar" accolade to a game only .05% of gaming populace can enjoy, you're going to come off as a biased elitist. That is why PC games are fundamentally flawed as art.



PC game of the Year

PC RPG of the year. Without a shadow of a doubt.


It'll probably win a few "Game of the Year" from heavily biased PC centric outlets. But if you're bias for a platform, you lose all credibility as a critic.

Well, GoTY is just like the Oscars.. companies "compete" (more like campaign) to have their games declared GoTY. Of course, there's only one Academy giving out Oscars, while there are many outlets declaring "GoTY". And the game doesn't have to be available in all platforms to be declared Overall GoTY". For example, Demon's Souls was declared Overall GoTY by PC World, GameSpot, RPGamer, and others, and that game was a PS3 exclusive.

"GoTY" doesn't really mean much nowadays... heck, I don't think it ever meant anything other than re-releasing a 1-year old game with all the patches and and added content released the year before.

As for the last comment, I understand this is a Bethesda forum about a Bethesda game, but come on.

I would die

BUT if its necessary then I would w8 another year

That's of course assuming any of these media outlets and critics had any credibility to begin with. :tongue:

Personally I think people put too much stock in review scores and awards.

Yes. There are many mags issueing GOTY awards out there...
It's only fair The_ugly_guy_at_the_Store hangs a The Witcher 2 poster on the background wall of his forthcoming Youtube video.

I wouldn't take too serious those scores on Metacritic, they are flawed as hell. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion scored 9.4/10 in professional reviews and only 7.6/10 in user ratings. That's how flawed it is, the difference is ridiculous. Either the professional reviewers are not objective, or there are http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/user-reviews?dist=negative who rate oblivion with 0/10, 1/10 or 2/10 just to have fun and lower the global rating.

I think it's more so this.

Actually, it's nothing like the "Oscars". Some films (The King's Speech) are made with the singular intent to please the core of the group that determines "Film of the year". How films are actually selected as the "Best" is based off a "Consensus" of sorts, that generally picks the "Least hated" over the "most loved", as many films polarize opinion.

I make no claims towards the actual quality of The Witcher2, I just know how the media outlets tend to vote. So unless The Witcher 2 has some incredible asset they've been keeping under-wraps, there's no way it's going to bring home the "GOTY" titles from any self-respecting multiplatform media outlets, whether the game deserves it or not. I'm more speaking to the faults of how we award games specific titles or accolades, than to the Witcher 2 itself. But the cloud of bias already caused a lot of people to miss that point and lash out in defense of their beloved flagship.


I still stand by that last comment. The Witcher 2 does not look as amazing as everyone is playing it off as. If anything, it's visual assets work against it, reveal an overall tired look, and the lighting effects wash out a lot of the detail and contrast to the world.

I don't know why people have this need to bash other games in order to make their own look better. Skyrim is going to be a great game, but that doesn't mean there aren't any other great games made by other developers. The more quality RPGs the better, and I think Skyrim, Witcher and Deus Ex will all be great games.

It's 11.11.11 !! And it's gonna be awesome !!

FU HATERS !


no really i love you guys. This game is gonna ruin my life, and im letting it do exactly that .