I am curious as to what you guys and gals think. Is Skyrim too much hype? I am sorry, I can't get too excited for it. Why, What I am reading, is EXACTLY the same thing I read for Oblivion. They claimed non static NPCs. They claimed intelligence for NPC. Now I am reading the same thing for Skyrim. While reading the Skyrim articles on the GI website, they are sort of slagging or saying how bad Oblivion was. Wait a second. 5 years ago, you say how great Oblivion was, but now 5 years later you say how limiting Oblivion is?

I am just not really caring for what they are saying for Skyrim. It's like been there, done that. Todd is doing the exact same thing, Saying how this is so great and awsome while we were limited to prior games. Well I don't want to know how great or awsome Skyrim is, because all you are going to do in a few years time is saying how limited you were in making Skyrim because of what ever reason. First is, you didn't know what to do with the 360. Now it's you know what to do with it. Why do I have a feeling in 5 years time all you are going to say for TES VI is how limited you were for Skyrim.

In other words, I don't believe what Todd says. He is here to hype us up so we get the game on day one. Well I will be getting the game on Day One release. But please no more, how awsome the NPCs will be. How they have sceduels and they will not be so bland as Oblivion. You never once mentioned that NPCs in Oblivion were bland. In fact you said the opposite. Now all of a sudden Oblvion NPCs are bland?

Before I was excited for Skyrim, now reading the articels, I am not. All I see instead of how great Skyrim is, is how bad Oblivion was. So far not impressed.

That is called "progress".

I'm sold on the graphics. Even if it plays exactly the same as Oblivion, which I still highly doubt, the new game and physics engine will allow for even better modding opportunity.

The Radiant AI was good for its time ( though not as good as it could have been) And it seems they've improved and built on what they had. I think there will be some pretty good improvements. Overhyped? Its the next TES game. My fav genre, so no. Its impossible not to get excited about the most complex open ended game soon to be available

I remember being fascinated by merely whacking my sword on the wall in Oblivion in the tutorial dungeon and seeing the sparks. Then having the rats come at me. Skyrim will be great and I see it having some nice improvements and fixing some things that were broken in Oblivion.

This.

Of course Oblivion is a bit limited, considering it came out in 2006.

That's like saying "before we had cars with fuel injection, we were limited with what we could do. But now we do, we have better cars"

Unless you would rather he said that Oblivion wasn't limited, and Skyrim won't be either because it's the same??

I think another word can be added here.

"Relative"

The difference between OB and SK is is that OB was that well advertised while deep in development and most of stuff got cut out because they couldn't get implemented well. It was natural for Skyrim to be what OB was supposed to be in many aspects and since it is late in development, this info is more trustable I think.

really a lightswitch today is no big deal today, but way back when it was invented people peed their pants when they saw a light turn on
and a lot of the stuff that couldn't be put in Oblivion is going into skyrim, so they kinda have to live up to their promises

I hope this doesn't turn into a "Fable 3". I don't think so though, even though Oblivion didn't deliver on exactly what they promised it was still a really, really great game, one that deserved me to put a couple hundred hours into it, I trust em'

Its always like this when a game gets announced. Look at Gears of War 3. It was announced not too long ago and everyone went nuts about the screens and info released. Now, a couple of months later, the announcement-info is old news and everything cools down until closer to release, when the hype machine comes rolling back.

This is what I ment to say. I wish I was better with words. :wink_smile: I do hope you are correct about this. Bethesda doesn't really have that much time to cut things out and still have the game playable.
This does give me hope.

Have to agree with that - if a game developers are not complaining about the limits that where in the past game than they did not move forward.

As for hype, I do try to limit my expectations - it's better to be surprised by what a great game it turned out to be and what awesome things and features the implemented when I did not expect them to really do it, than find out that things I was sure would be in got dropped. So I try to cut down any announcement by at last a half in my mind

:shrug: I loved Morrowind, and I loved Oblivion just as much as Morrowind, so there is really no reason for me to assume I will be disappointed with Skyrim at all; so I am very excited for the game.

Need to be relative.

I sometimes moan about Oblivion, because the levelling in the world was a disappointing backward step from Morrowind, but it was a step forward in other ways, particularly combat, blocking, graphics etc. Lets face it, for ￡40, I have had probably, at a guess, 200 hours play out of it, so when you consider a cinema ticket is nearly ￡10 for 2 hours, or a football match ￡40 for 90 minutes, then its pretty good value.

I'll buy Skyrim whatever. Just please no bandits in glass arm and levelled unique items.

Never got Fable 3. What was wrong with it? I agree I love Oblivion. For Bethesda to now say it isn't that great, just to make Skyrim seem to be more better, justs upsets me, that's all.

Oblivion was released nearly five years ago. Technological amazement is relevant to the time.

It's perfectly fine to be and stay sceptic, keeps us from turning into sheep. It's up to you to think of it what you want and decide whether it's worthy of your recources. Aside from that, Todd & Co would be terrible businessmen if they'd tell us how much their latest project would svck donkeyballs and that we'd be better off playing something else. Of course they're trying to sell the game, that's what they're being paid to do.

Well yeah. Oblivion IS bland, compared to what they're working on in Skyrim.

They did everything they could with Oblivion and they thought it was awesome. Then they made Fallout 3 and realized Oblivion wasn't all that great. So now they're making Skyrim the way they feel Oblivion should have been made.
Once they make their next game, they're gonna see everything they did wrong in Skyrim and say, "Now, Skyrim was bland. But TES VI, this is REALLY great!"
It's all relative.

Actually we had electric cars and biofuels. It took us that long to get back to what we started with. (Electric cars were at one point 50% of all cars)

It was still much deeper than any other game at the time. Most games still have NPCs cast as mindless drones who will spend their day walking up a street, then back down it until you riddle them with bullets. Which doesn't matter because the 8 NPCs that are look and sound the same, as well as walk the same street, will all do the same "run in fear" animation and bolt around the corner, only to immediately turn back around like it never happened.

Damn, I piss my pants everytime I see something new. SKYRIM SKYRIM!!!

They promised alot of things in Oblivion too, i get your point, but technology has advanced, and i don't think he'll make the same mistake again.

If you are complaining about your previous game, then something is wrong. Either you can't do the job, or you lied on how great it was, when you bragged about it. I don't think Bethesda can't do the job, so it was they just bragged too much about Oblivion. When Oblivion came out, and after about 12 hours of playing it, I was so diapointed with it. Basically they hyped up Oblivion as Morrowind 2.0. It failed, I was pissed, and left. A month later I came back, and then loved the game. I guess this is my main reason why I am not so hyped about Skyrim.

Just like Sshodan said, I try to cut down the announcement or at least the excitement that Todd gives us, so I don't expect so much out of Skyrim. Civ V, I expeceted so much. Not a good game on release. New Vegas I expected so much, I still love the game, but I don't find it lived to the hype. So I guess for me, I am just not trying to be too impressed with Skyrim, so I can't be disapointed when I play it after all the OOO pretty graphics and stuff like that.


I loved, Arena, Daggerfall, Disapointed with Battlespire, never did get Redguard , loved Morrowind, loved Oblivion. I do not see why I will not love Skyrim, but I just don't what that "Oblivion Let Down" that I had for Oblivion.

I think what you need to realise is, they had a lot less time to develop oblivion, can't remember exactly how much, whereas skyrim has, almost entirely, been hushed up and been worked on at a their own pace, and if i remember rightly Todd claimed that they were ready to show it (didn't mention it by name of course) a while ago but weren't allowed to.. they've had plenty of time to check that things work before announcing the game, and i get the idea that they weren't running on anywhere near as harsh a deadline (if at all?)

I could be wrong, but that's the idea i get.

I enjoyed all the TES games, whatever flaws they had.

I think Skyrim will be Epic in it`s content, partly because BS will have noted the things that annoyed fans with Oblivion, but also because of the technology gains and their years of experience at creating huge, open world RPG masterpieces.

I`m pretty optimistic about Skyrim and am betting it`s going to raise the bar way higher..

hell, if the radiant story system does work how they have described it, then that alone should increase replayability a lot.

Well, there's no way in Hell that I'm NOT going to be excited for Skyrim. I already am. Hell, I'm still waiting to get my GI magazine. (no Gamestops here have it T.T)

But you are right, to an EXTENT. All the stuff they're saying about two guys fighting over some item on the street, returning an item to you, I doubt it's going to be as diverse as we all think it will. Lots of games make something seem like more than it is on release. But, this is 2011, not 2006. There's still PLENTY of room for more modern improvement.