"they were already here"

they were hiding amongst men in human skin. remember the crazy woodelf in oblivion at Anvil i think it was...

It's implied.

The Dragon-Born are probably just people who are the protagonists that the Elder Scrolls for-tells of. The Neraverine was a Dragon-Born as well, so i am just making an assumption. I do assume that there will be a civil war between pro-Empire and pro-Skyrim dynasty. It does say in lore that Tarielic dragons existed so it is not much of a stretch to assume they come from Tamriel. Also expect giants because they like dragons were never hunted to extinction. The only thing that is really mentioned about dragons is that they stole livetock and where forced out of Vvardenfell do to to much competition for food from the over-abundant cliffracer. It was even said dragons existed and just flew up in the clouds and used invisibility and polymorph spells to avoid detection. The dragons probably were in hiding until they could get enough numbers and power to re-stake claims in Tamriel, and with so many wars and the oblivion crisis wiping out order in many different provinces then why shouldn't dragons try to make themselves a new nation like every one else?

Nope, you're inferring it


Thats also a possibility, though I'd place more weight in the human-tsaesci interbreeding and/or any remaining colonies than a crazy wood elf.

Judging on verb tense, I'd say that they were not there after their defeat, but are "already here" at the time of the narration.

"Till the time after Oblivion opened". Seems like a good reference to a landmark time, to me.


The plot of Oblivion was revealed by a crazy Nord seer.

Tamrielic dragons were under the protection of the Empire.

I was led to believe that the dragons are the greater threat to Nirn and they waited for the Oblivion Crisis (and Umbriel unless there's a retcon) to weaken Tamriel (and perhaps Nirn's other continents) before striking?

Or maybe the Tsaesci are striking again, and they either are dragons or the dragons are their mounts. I remember the term 'Snake People' may well have been derived from their reptilian mounts.

Nord seer and a Dunmer prophet. A bit more credible than a crazy Bosmer sailor, imo.


Thats what the trailer seems to say, at least at first glance. Lore however has no precedent for it (which either means retcon or a gap in our knowledge).

Hmm...I feel like we could rule out Akaviri. The video heavily implies that people don't want to believe "they" exist. Everyone in Tamriel knows Akaviri exist. High Rock had to deal with Akaviri pirates for a long time, The tscaeci invaded through Pale Pass, and were present in the Empire for no small amount of time, Akaviri attacked Morrowind, and Uriel V led a documented invasion of Akavir.

Most likely the gap. Dragons are referenced so, so many times and so much lore (especially on the Aedra) is fuzzy at best. Even what capacity dragons themselves exist in in the ES universe has yet to be pinned down. BGS likely saw it as an area ripe for exploration.

I think it's all about actual dragons. They represent Akatosh's Nordic envision, and are here to destroy the world, to make way for the next. The plot involves the player stopping them from doing so.

Perhaps they're Akatosh's lost minions, and he's anot actually making them destroy the world? They're just remains from the last destruction?

What if the player is not in a supporting role, but is actually this Novakleen (Citizen of Novac!:P) reborn in the manner of the Nerevarine? Then the face on the relief wouldn't matter.




200 years after, according to the Barnes + Noble slip.




My money's on this having something to do with Atmora, or Akatosh. Akavir seems unlikely. I hope its not just angry dragons, anyway. I think the trailer was designed to throw us off.

someone said that the music in it was a combination of Oblivion and Morrowind, I heard Oblivion, but not Morrowind, im gonna check the game files again

yep just revisited all of them, didn't hear any that sounded remotely close to that

I like this.


I don't like this. Too much of a rehash. However, that doesn't mean that the player can't take a avatar-of-akatosh/Talos (Akatoshine? Talosian?) role. Mantling, or just the same metaphysical role, not direct reincarnation.



Its a remix of a theme used in both games.

I think this too, it's probably just a prophecy and it doesn't matter how that trailer depicts you.

Akatosh being the antagonist would be a pretty awesome twist, I have to admit.

Since Akatosh personally defeated Mehrunes Dagon at the end of Oblivion, perhaps he felt that the Daedra posed too much of a risk to Mundus, and that he would need to destroy it and rebuild? That would be interesting.

Though what you say sounds more plausible.

"The sons of Skyrim spill their own blood."

That sounds like civil war to me.

So what did you think of the music - I was thinking of the Nordic talent for thu'um and wondering if we might see some of that in action - thought it could be implied by the deep chanting in the background

At first i thought it had to with the Akavari, but im not sureo

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga

The latest lore we have on Skyrim. Sized up for emphasis.

Or maybe it's a faux invasion designed to test and strengthen the existing mortal plane a la Revan's invasion of the Republic (before TOR's lore absolutely mutilated Revan's character).

So what does it mean summed up?

I like that the game seems like it will take place soon after Oblivion instead of the two hundred years later that some had speculated.

I'd like to know what the lyrics were at the end of the trailer. Perhaps they reveal some interesting secrets.

morrowind was the drums at the begining and the end.