What i hope will be avoided
1. Is the constant freezing up whenever i tried to run through any areas of Oblivion
2. Hundreds of NPCs & limited dialog
3. Nearly every location looking the same, I love trees but why do i have to go through an oblivion gate for a change in scenery

What i want from Skyrim
1. Weather effects rain, snow, blizzards, & weather effecting my character. shivering if their cool or clothing looking wet from rain or getting out of a lake

Morrowind was flawless? I'm confused by the title.

As far as your points are concerned, what system are you playing on? Point #1 didn't exist for me but I'm on the PS3.

I do agree with your second point #1 (I think you meant it to be #4 but you put #1 twice).

By freezing do you mean loading between game areas? I played on Pc and never had freezing issues, maybe it was your hardware.
The limited dialogue is annoying indeed but I don't think this will be changed now that we can't talk to everyone any longer.
The variation in landscape is almost palpable in the trailer.


No.

Yea I have Oblivion GotY on the PS3 and don't have any freezing/stuttering issues.

And I agree, just from the short trailer we can see great variety in the landscapes.

Im sorry, but number 2 wont be avoided. Honestly, it CANT be avoided. Morrowind didnt avoid it, and Oblivion obviously did not. Its impossible to create personalities for hundreds of anonymous NPCs. Kind of redundant too. This is not a social simulator. Want personality? Go to a party and talk to people.

I'm not saying turn it into mmo social simulator dumbazz i'm saying it gets old hearing the same ten or fifteen lines of dialog from random NPCs repeated no matter where u went. On 360 oblivion froze at times when running to different areas when not using fast travel & yes loading different areas when using fast travel just like Fallout3 & NewVegas does although nowhere near as much as 360 oblivion.

Was it installed to your Xbox's hard drive? Was the disk scratched/used? Are you sure your 360 was functioning properly? That doesn't sound normal.

I can't wait to try out the newest version of MMM for Skyrim...when it gets completed.

It was a new copy & at the time i don't think there was an install option on 360.
I seriously want Skyrim though, it looks amazing.

Really? I remember people saying you could install it, but I don't know, myself.

There's your problem. The stuttering isn't a problem on a PS3 or good PC.

Really? alot of people in gamestop said they had issues on PC.
One part was What i hope will be avoided with a list of issues i'd like to avoid finding & the second was What i want from Skyrim, things i was going to add like lots of creatures, wolf companions, stuff like that but i didn't finish

I haven't played on the PC but I got Oblivion when it launched on the 360 and when I got my PS3 in January 2010 I got Oblivion GotY. I can tell you first hand that it runs better on the PS3. I'm sure Skyrim will perform fine on both systems. New engine and 5+ years experience with the consoles bodes well.

Yea i read that Bethesda ironed out some bugs & technical issues & improved things on PS3. I would have gotten the PS3 version but by the time it was out i put in so much time with oblivion on 360 i was just burnt out. Has PS3 added the rumble feature to oblivion or still no

What I want out of it - An interesting world, not another rehashed fantasy Europe
To be avoided - Predictable scaling of creatures and loot

All I want to get out of Skyrim is hundreds of hours of amusemant, diversion and satisfaction. The details are unimportant, so long as it provides those things.

As a step toward providing those things, a (hopefully) quick list of things I don't want to ever see again:

1) Substituting the journal and map markers for the gathering of information. I don't have a real issue with either one, broadly - if you don't want to use them, you can just not use them. But there are too many points in Oblivion at which the ONLY way that you can find out what to do next or where to go next is to read the journal and/or follow the magic GPS. That svcks. I want to figure out where to go next and what to do next by gathering information in-game. If all I can do is read the journal to discover what it is that I've apparently "decided" I should do next, then follow the magic GPS to find it, then there's little point in playing at all.

2) Dreadfully poorly written quests. Canvas the Castle, for instance, has the potential to be a great quest. It wasn't. It was, instead, excruciatingly bad. Pretty much anyone with a working brain could take a pretty solid guess regarding the culprit just from talking to the NPCs, but oh no - you couldn't accuse anyone then. Instead you had to gather "evidence" that was stupid, pointless, inconclusive and not in any way any sort of legitimate "evidence." I have no idea what they were thinking when they wrote that quest, much less how anyone in their right minds could consider it acceptable when it was done. That sort of thing shouldn't even make it out the door.

3) Pointless running around the map quests. Never again do I want to, for example, go to Chorrol so that Modryn can tell me to go to Anvil so that Azzan can tell me to go to Bruma so that I can do a quick task and go back to Anvil, so that Azzan can tell me to go to Chorrol so that Modryn can tell me to go to Leyawiin.

4) A nagging, invasive main quest. If I don't want to do the main quest, I don't want to do the main quest and I shouldn't have to. Yes - I can (and almost always do) avoid doing the main quest in Oblivion, but in order to do that, I have to make believe that there isn't a huge destroyed city along the road between Skingrad and Anvil. And gods forbid that I actually go investigate that city - next thing I know, there are going to be gates popping up all over the place, spewing red clouds and thunder from horizon to horizon just because I happened to walk within 100 meters of one. Stop pestering me. If I want to go off and do something else (which is supposedly one of the selling points of TES games), then let me go off and do something else without constantly waving the main quest in front of my face.

5) Characters that all look like actors in bad Star Trek make up. I don't want to see more elves that look like humans with facepaint and pointy ears and I especially don't want to see beast races that look like humans in latex suits and halloween masks.

6) Stupid level scaling. I don't have an issue with level scaling in general - I'd prefer that it wasn't there, but I understand why it is and I can deal with it. But I don't ever again want to see bandits in glass armor hanging around the side of the road in the hopes of stealing 50 gold pieces off of me. And speaking of roads:

7) Every single monster in the world pacing back and forth on a road. What are all of those soldiers doing patrolling the roads? And why are the monsters and bandits all there? I can run through the wilderness and only rarely see anything other than butterflies and trees, but the first time I set foot on a road, it's elbow-to-elbow with mythical creatures and bandits. There's perfectly good, perfectly safe wilderness all around - why is this Minotaur pacing up and down the road? And why didn't the soldier I just passed even notice him, much less do something about him?


Aaaahhh... satisfying rant. That'll probably do for now......

I really, really don't want see this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV97mahRgpY

i had a few freezeups on the 360 also. but i could tell when it was going to happen. the game would start to stutter a bit. easy fix. shut it down. restart and clear cashe (or whatever) by pressing and holding a button on the controller while the game loaded up. no big deal. Yes my game was loaded on the hard drive. 360 elite. It was no worse then any other bug i have run into from gaming over the years and better than alot of them.

Onto the more important topic. what do i want from skyrim? I want 200 hours of fun play. laugh at some of the devs/programmers mistakes. maybe buy a computer for this game and get into modding. hopefully there will be some help out there for a computer building newb. I hope skyrim will be as fun to watch as oblivion. What else is there to want? maybe lots of treasure, and to come out with a kick but character in the end.

what dont i want in skyrim that was in oblivion? Alot of poeple have negatives about oblivion. i really dont have any. i enjoyed it for what it was. Oblivion gates became a little boring but that was solved by not doing them all at once.

With the new Creation Engine I'm sure that's been remedied.

That was just something that was so ridiculously unimportant that most didn't even notice it or see it as a problem.

I don't think it was a problem with their engine at all, they just had better things to focus on.

What should be avoided:

Using the same 3 voice actors for all the NPCs in the game.

What should be included:

More voice actors, with more talent.

I want "Named Soul Gems" to make a return from the previous titles. No more of that Oblivion % crap.

I want More overall variety in the game. That breaks into more than two items that needed fixing with Oblivion.... way more.

1: Again people mentioning oblivion in a bad way,yes,it wasn't perfect,but was still a damn good game. It's the best selling elder scrolls title so far. It would be nice if people also mentioned things they didn't like about daggerfall and morrowind too,instead of just oblivion....gets up my nose a little bit. I bet there is things from all the series that people would rather not have. There are alot of good things about oblivion too aswell,way too many to mention here. But two good things come mind though,sales and popularity,and even though i can't use them.."mods", some people have done great things with oblivion mods. Anyway ,you get my point.

2: There is many,many things i'd like to see from my personal view in skyrim,but i know all won't be added or may be done differently. Either way,i've liked everything about skyrim so far,to me, it looks amazing. And we have so much more to know yet. I agree,i would like to see more about the weather,as for effecting my character...yes,that would be nice too,but aslong as it's not over the top. I want hand-to-hand to stay,i think it's a great combat style,just needs to be re-done,with more moves/animations,kicks,grabs etc. I would like to see a little more gore,location damage,head chopping etc...Though from what we've read so far,this may be the case anyway,well, more brutal is what i mean. I want to be able to kill birds and other flying creatures ,besides dragons. I want candles,lanterns and torches to create their own light source for my home etc ( like in morrowind ). There is many,many things i'd like,but if i don't get them....Boo Hoo,it's not gunna stop me buying skyrim,because it looks awesome regardless so far :thumbsup:

Yes your right there's alot of good things about oblivion & loved it & there are a few things that can be left out or improved in Skyrim. With all the info given & trailers seen it would be horrible to play the game & see things like animations for sidestep poorly handled as someone mentioned above or the same hand full of actors doing the voices for all the NPCs in the game. You get a shiny new engine & a beautiful game world filled with some of the same lame concepts & it would be kinda disappointing.
I would like to level up my spells without them requiring a target like in morrowind, i'd like to go out & train using spells or whatever.