Skyrim will be $60 on the PC

Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:48 pm

@MC.Jesus: PC versions of games are typically $10 cheaper then console games, which is what I'm guessing you play. Save for a select few like MW2, MoH, and most current big titles.

Wow... I've been accused of a lot of things in my life, but a console gamer? God no. Can't stand those things.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:04 pm

Since the ES games mean more to me than just about anything...Price is not a concern. Besides, it is a one-time cost. Unless, of course, I break the disk.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:57 pm

For one thing games are larger and have longer deveopment time and more development cost, and have only gone up a bit in price over a decade.

What games are you talking about that were $30 "a couple of year back" some games are still sold for $30 or $40.

All CoD games since MW1 have had 2 years of development time. MW2 and Black Ops were both sold for $60 on all systems. There have been a few other companies who have recently been putting the $60 price tag on their PC games as of late, but I can't recall off the top of my head which they are.

And Bethesda has PLENTY of monday. They and their parent company have purchased like 3 different developers in the last few years, including Obsidian, id, Tango Gameworks, and even a new Zenimax Online (called the Online-focused Bethesda). I don't think they need to catch up on their development costs, which they do well enough in DLC sales.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:14 pm

do you people [censored] golden coins? I'm sorry but if the PC standard edition is 60 dollars I'm just going to wait until it drops price. Its not like I haven't done it before I got dead space for 20 dollars last time...theres to many games I wait this year I have PS3, xbox360, and PC. Oh plus bills...gas money....sorry skyrim you just have to wait. :)
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:24 pm

Only if there's no exclusive DLC.

But, yeah, $60 ka-ching? That's pretty steep. They better throw in a pretty manual and a map. I mean, look at what the Hellbook edition of Darksiders has! I got an awesome case, the soundtrack, a digital comic, a physical artbook, a few extra pages of artwork, and a few cards with art printed on them. List price? $40.on release. Bethesda, you have no excuse!

EDIT: but, not like I'll be getting TESV on release. If it is any good, I'll wait til it hits $20 or for the GotY to hit $20.


Really? Your not willing to pay full price for the long awaited installment to the greatest game series of all time? I mean if it really is $60, you wouldn't pay an extra $10 for a game that comes around once ever 4-6 years? It's 10 dollars, you should be able to make that AT LEAST in one hour of work. You won't sacrifice one hour for Skyrim which would give you hundreds of hours of gameplay?
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:17 pm

Really? Your not willing to pay full price for the long awaited installment to the greatest game series of all time? GET OUT OF MY SIGHT!


I like how you said "GET OUT OF MY SIGHT" :P

Because... :) like :thumbsup: you know. You never even saw him. :teehee:

I hope the prices don't go up anymore but I see no reason for the PC gamers to make a thread about this. You are paying $10 more than you are used to and you are saying that you might not buy the game because of this.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:21 pm

Amazon.co.uk has the PC version for £27.99, while both console versions are £39.99.

There we go PC version is £12 or $18.68 cheaper.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:45 pm

I like how you said "GET OUT OF MY SIGHT" :P

Because... :) like :thumbsup: you know. You never even saw him. :teehee:

I hope the prices don't go up anymore but I see no reason for the PC gamers to make a thread about this. You are paying $10 more than you are used to and you are saying that you might not buy the game because of this.


I killed you! How did you survive!?!
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:54 pm

So in other words, you don't have evidence.

You wrote a lot of words, but little of it has any relevance, most of it isn't even true.

What do you think is a reasonable price for a game that costs millions to make? Sure it only costs a few dollars to stamp the disc and make the packaging, but that's not what you're paying for.

I don't even understand what you hoped to accomplish by comparing it to the music industry.


Can you care to enlighten me if I'm saying anything false? I don't know, I don't feel like taking your word when I bothered actually writing something about it. As for my industry comparison, well, that's an industry comparison, as far as I know, video games is a huge industry. We were talking about costs, and I was talking about costs, about how industries work and tend to act. The music industry is quite similar to the video games one in many way, and you'll have to explain me how it's not relevant. I was using the music industry to tell how ultimately, the VG industry only cares about money. If they can sell games for higher, despite a smaller price increase would be okay to follow increase in costs, they will. If people are still willing to buy, they won't settle for less. If people ARE unwilling to buy, and if something can be done about it to counter-act, they will do the latter, like trying to combat piracy. Making music is very different than making video games, but like I said, VGs are not the basemant thing anymore, it's controlled by people in fancy clothes who wish to continue to get more money they can't even spend.

As for a price, I have not one. A lot of artists PAY themselves the cost of recording albums, so you do so by paying the artist the couple of cents you give them per cd, not the inflated price that goes in the pockets of the labels. I wasn't making a direct comparison to making and selling video games, you missed my point, I was merely talking about the greedy nature of such industries. As far as I know, the developers aren't paying themselves the expenses of making a game, and as far as I know, they get a lot bigger percentage of a copy than a music artist does. And then, there's no "template production costs". Some games are cheaper and faster to make than others, and it can vary a lot, but they are all sold (or mostly, at least if you talk about consoles) at the same price. Personally, I'd bet they wouldn't even need the PC version to cover their expenses. You can't really judge this to make a price, so making video games can be risky. But say Bungie are asking 20 bucks more for their next Halo game because it would cost a lot in development, that would be ridiculous because it would basically be riskless. As for another Modern Warfare game. But why did Activision charged 10 bucks more on pc if there was obviously no risk involved? Because they knew people would still buy the thing. This 10 bucks doesn't get in the production costs, it's merely put into Activision's bosses pockets. And we all know they don't like to give their employees their bonuses for the good sales. Some companies makes twice as much money as it cost them to make it, some can't even cover the expenses, how do you know this? How do you know how to price games? That's not me to answer, but I'm intelligent enough to realize that increases like these are for the wrong reasons. Game costs more to develop, yes, but despite this, companies make more money than ever as evidenced by how the industry flourishes. Hell, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are reluctant to make new consoles, why? Because it costs a lot of money to make, and developing with the same hardware everyone already owns and asking more money for their services is far more profitable than doing something a bit risky.

I thought you wanted me to tell you why the industry wouldn't want to try to always ask you for more, more and more. You are not even telling me why exactly you disagree with me, nor you simply don't tell me how the industry doesn't work that way.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:41 pm

I really hope that it drops down to $50. It has always seemed like a fair price for most games, and has been an industry standard for years, even carrying through the most recent generation of games and consoles.

I don't know if we are interpreting this differently, but console games have cost $60 for a long time now...

PC games might be different, but console games are $60, and from what I read you are saying console games are also $50, which is wrong.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:31 am

Yup.

Some of us are forgetting that we are in an economic recession - which is NOT getting any better. With general inflation as well as oil prices forecast for over $100 per barrel in 2011; expect some hikes in the cost of computer games too.



Yeah because clearly the multi-million even billion dollar video game industry is being affected by the recession...the video game industry is one of those not as heavily affected. They are making even more money each year despite the economic problems.

Like someone said consoles have a reason for selling games at 60 bucks, the PC does not. The recession is just an excuse for them to shoot up the prices. I won't be paying an extra ten dollars for a game. 15+ years ago games cost less than 50 bucks recently they were 50 bucks, now they are starting to become 60 bucks. A decade from now they will be 70 bucks and so on. People will always say...oh it's just an extra 10 bucks..where does it end? As long as the buyers are fine with it the prices will continue to go up.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:36 am

$60 is fair if the game will be as big and wonderful as we expect it to be.

I'd rather they make more money on this game and are able to hire the staff needed in order to keep the games coming. Making more money is incentive for them to put games out faster, without compromising quality. If we pay a premium, it only helps them keep up with the other game studios that have better graphics and put games out every year or two.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:24 pm

Don't you guys think that this could be a typo? Every single game that comes out for PC has the default price of $50. Unless Bethesda decides to become greedy and go full Bobby Kotick, which I doubt it will ever happen, the price will be $50.

Brink's pre-order is $49
New Vegas was $49
Rage is $49
So why Skyrim won't be $49?
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:43 pm

40 bucks cheaper than they normally are.

Thank you, weak US dollar! :celebration:
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:44 am

I still don't understand. Why do they even make PC games cheaper? How can you complain that you are getting the same price as everyone else?


This.

On topic, I could care less. Ten dollars isn't a big deal for me, and it's not stopping me from buying it. It's not like it costs less to make a PC game (at least I don't think it does, correct me if I'm wrong) and why should us PC gamers have to pay less for games.

(This is a joke by the way, so don't take offence) You guys should svck it up, after taxes and stuff, in Canada most games are $80. (Again, that was a joke, so don't get pissed)
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:13 pm

$60 is fair if the game will be as big and wonderful as we expect it to be.

I'd rather they make more money on this game and are able to hire the staff needed in order to keep the games coming. Making more money is incentive for them to put games out faster, without compromising quality. If we pay a premium, it only helps them keep up with the other game studios that have better graphics and put games out every year or two.


That's an error. There are no game studios with better graphics than Bethesda when it comes to Elder Scrolls, they are always at the forefront of gaming graphics of their time.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:40 am

Why do most ppl think that if people buy video games that means they are taking money from their mother's and father's pocket? You have no proof that EVERY user does this, I mean I don't have a job right but than again I get paid money for how good I clean the house every Saturday, I have to clean 3 stories each Saturday, ALONE and depending on how it looks I could make $20 or have it go down to $10, I can't really complain about this since I am getting free room and board since I live here but even than the money I get is FROM their wallets that they make at their jobs yet they give it to me for working on the house every weekend so I don't know if you want to call that getting money from their wallets or not... :/


Yeah? Do you have a family and kids to support? do you have to pay taxes, or pay for gas/commuting, buy food to feed your family, have to pay a mortgage for your house, pay off the car or two you purchased, or build a decent computer? Why don't you answer those first and then you'll understand why some people feel the extra 10 bucks is pricy, not to mention unwarranted and certainly not going to the artists and developers who made the game.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:55 pm

Really? Your not willing to pay full price for the long awaited installment to the greatest game series of all time? I mean if it really is $60, you wouldn't pay an extra $10 for a game that comes around once ever 4-6 years? It's 10 dollars, you should be able to make that AT LEAST in one hour of work. You won't sacrifice one hour for Skyrim which would give you hundreds of hours of gameplay?

You apparently don't have a job, or somehow make so much that you've become way out of touch with the economy and minimum wage.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:05 pm

That's an error. There are no game studios with better graphics than Bethesda when it comes to Elder Scrolls, they are always at the forefront of gaming graphics of their time.


Yeah? You do realize Crysis was released in 2006...not to mention Mass Effect 2007, and Unreal Tournament 3 was in production. Best graphics? I think not.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:00 pm

Yeah because clearly the multi-million even billion dollar video game industry is being affected by the recession...the video game industry is one of those not as heavily affected. They are making even more money each year despite the economic problems.

Like someone said consoles have a reason for selling games at 60 bucks, the PC does not. The recession is just an excuse for them to shoot up the prices. I won't be paying an extra ten dollars for a game. 15+ years ago games cost less than 50 bucks recently they were 50 bucks, now they are starting to become 60 bucks. A decade from now they will be 70 bucks and so on. People will always say...oh it's just an extra 10 bucks..where does it end? As long as the buyers are fine with it the prices will continue to go up.



did you know that 100+ years ago that video games cost $0? Thus I shouldn't have to pay anything for video games. Also did you know that 75 years ago a good car cost $300? I'm not going to buy anymore cars until the prices come down.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:07 pm

You apparently don't have a job, or somehow make so much that you've become way out of touch with the economy and minimum wage.


In some parts of the world (like Nova Scotia) minimum wage is ten dollars, (give or take a few cents) so how would he know better?
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:37 am

did you know that 100+ years ago that video games cost $0? Thus I shouldn't have to pay anything for video games. Also did you know that 75 years ago a good car cost $300? I'm not going to buy anymore cars until the prices come down.


Inflation, different economic system..bad comparisons. 100 years ago video games didn't exist...another flawed example.

For the record I never said I don't expect games to increase in value and price, only that nobody is concerned of the price increases which gives the companies every reason to sell for those prices. Some people are fine with 100 dollar games, and would be perfectly willing to pay that much. Would you be fine if a company started selling games for that much?

And before you say you would ignore that game..what if every company began to adopt that price tag because there is a large enough consumer base that could care less?

And like I mentioned in a previous post that extra money is not going to the artists and developers in a lot of these companies. They are filling the pockets of the bosses and CEO's. Perhaps you like to waste money in these tough times to people who are wiping their asses with 100 dollar bills, but not me.
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:16 am

Yeah? You do realize Crysis was released in 2006...not to mention Mass Effect 2007, and Unreal Tournament 3 was in production. Best graphics? I think not.


You do realize that Crysis was released later in 2006 and hadn't been in development nearly as long as Oblivion....
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Post » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:16 pm

I still don't understand. Why do they even make PC games cheaper? How can you complain that you are getting the same price as everyone else?

No the question is why do they make console games more expensive. I think MS did it first and Sony obliged. It's kinda like price fixing.
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Post » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:23 am

I killed you! How did you survive!?!


You killed me while we were in Oblivion. I am not sure how this affects things but Lord Dagon was holding on to my soul for me. I hope the next game won't be about the return of me cause that would svck balls.
You guys should svck it up, after taxes and stuff, in Canada most games are $80.


$80?!?! I have seen many games that were 69.99 but non that were 80! Dang, people on the east coast must have it bad.
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