Skyrim won Game of the Year question is does it deserve it? : V - Skyrim

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:51 am

yes, it was a great first impression then i sank down from the changes they made....then i got used to it and im back up. The only bug ive experienced was the resist thingie during that patch which they fixed up. As far as major bugs...for the ps3 users damn sry it happened but im leaning more towards the side that its the actual PS3 equipment fault right there so im not blaming bethesda on that one, they should fix it but eh or start making their games exclusive to Xbox360 and PC that way they could get rid of ALOT of bad press right there and hell it'd boost xbox sells. From what i hear on Xbox besides the murder quest thats there really nothing gamebreaking...........TBH Bethesda has actually improved ALOT when u compare it to the other games right when they released. People were having problems right out the start and not really experiencing bugs until much later in the game. Alot of PC's bugs are fixed by just launching it with the 4g loader.
BUT lets say im just blowing smoke and no one agrees with me and this game is riddled just riddled with bugs and viruses and so forth......then id still call it a GOTY for the mast majority to not be able to put down this bug infested game and cant quit playing this broken game...literally putting hours on hours into a broken/bug riddled/pc exploding game....

i love it and have enjoyed the days i have spent on it :tes:

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:36 pm

I'm just going to quote myself from a thread I just posted in. I feel it applies to why I think they do.

You really have to think about just what is going on to create this game for our pleasure. I'm referring to what the game has to do, and remember for how ever many hours it takes to play out that character. This is not some linear 10-12 hour experience. Some of the games used as comparisons for why Bethesda/Skyrim are not worthy are laughable when you look at it from a technical standpoint. (To me at least.)

In Skyrim, pick up a book, bump a bowl off the table, kill all the NPC's in Fort X, harvest that Snowberry bush, and the game has to keep track of that, indefinitely. Finished the Thieves Guild Quest line? 2/3 through the main quest? It has to remember that. That's a lot of freaking data after 20+, hell, any amount of hours!

Then there is all the scripting to give this world life. I'm no programer, but even I can see how it's impossible to account for everything and anything that can happen.

As for patches to patch patches, I say, [censored] happens! I've got 2 characters on the go, I've probably done at most, 10, maybe 15% (Admitted estimate.) of what there is to do. If my game hit the crapper for good right now, I'd still feel I got my moneys worth. In the last week, I've rented Uncharted 3 and Assassins Creed Revelations. I finished both games in under 25hrs. Both my Skyrim characters together come to over 75 hours of play, having only done that 10/15% or so. Hell, even at 50%, that's freaking incredible.

Bethesda has few competitors in this regard. I feel they deserve a bit of leniency when there massively huge accomplishment in a game world has a hiccup or 2. Try and laugh the silly stuff off, and forgive the bigger issues. Life's to short.

I'll always buy the Fallout and TES series on day one, as they are the only games truly worth the $50/$60 to me on day one. The content/$ ratio is mind boggling compared to the competition.

Maybe I'm just easy to please, but I really think they deserve their awards.

Again, good on ya Bethesda crew. :foodndrink:

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:38 am

I'm just going to quote myself from a thread I just posted in. I feel it applies to why I think they do.

:foodndrink:

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:48 pm

So you are okay with the fact that we gamers are playing with a ticking time bomb video game that can explode anytime

I'm not agreeing nor am i disagreeing with you here.

But that made me laugh

Bethesda going durka durka jihad on the gamers ^^

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:34 pm

Game of the Year with a Metacritic user score of 5.6...nice!

So apparently having a low Metacritic score can cost you your bonus but you can still run away with the prizes...

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:36 am

Game of the Year with a Metacritic user score of 5.6...nice!

So apparently having a low Metacritic score can cost you your bonus but you can still run away with the prizes...

5.6? I see 8.3. Maybe I'm drunk?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:57 pm

If this question had been asked the day of the 1.2 patch release then this topic would have been locked up faster than a ps3 with a memory leak.
loving skyrim and its all thanks to the kind people who provided instructions on how to roll back from 1.2 to 1.1 ( havent tried 1.3 as i`m too scared to let it patch )
Best game of the year by far provided you set steam to offline and dont let it autopatch lol

thankyou bethesda

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:43 am

This is only the second game I bought at full retail price for my PS3. It contains, on average, the same number of errors (for me) that I see on average for games that have been out a year or more. Honestly Mortal Kombat 9 (my other brand new game) contained no errors, but it was alone with my library of 12 games, all of which were on average a year old when I bought. Out of all, I dump the most time by far into Skyrim. Wins easy.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:43 pm

5.6? I see 8.3. Maybe I'm drunk?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

Not drunk. Just the wrong platform:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:35 pm

Not drunk. Just the wrong platform:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim

And 8.3 on the PC (metascore of 95 out of a hundred), 8.5 on the 360 (metascore of 96 out of a hundred) and 5.6 on Ps3 (metascore of 93 out of a hundred).

I think your point would be stronger if it wasn't rated high on 2 of the 3 consoles. Unless GOTY awards should be solely decided on Ps3 metacritic scores (a whole 1108 user votes).

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:03 pm

VGA doesnt have the final say, so it doesnt matter. Theres going to be a ton of outlets giving out GotY's. VGA should not be put on top of that list. In fact theyre bottom feeder tier. Game Developers Choice is the closest thing we have to an oscars for games that keeps it respectful.

Do you really think Game Developers Choice is going to pick a game where you have less freedom to edit the game (PC) than Skyrim? It will win on the construction kit alone.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:32 pm

wow, I just got done writing an article about this.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Free of bugs? Doubtful. In it's current state? Absolutely not. No amount of silly awards changes anything in my eyes.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:20 am

Do you really think Game Developers Choice is going to pick a game where you have less freedom to edit the game (PC) than Skyrim? It will win on the construction kit alone.

CK shouldn't have any influence whatsoever since it does not effect the entire fanbase just a portion of it and should not be required to enjoy said game. And if the freedom to "edit" the game was the decider then the reward will go to Minecraft.

Should go off what is currently in the game accounting the said developers work ethic and overall performance in each and every version equally no matter the % of fans on each sadly that doesn't happen on any site that gives out such rewards.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:18 pm

I put alot of thought into this. I'll be the first one to tell you this game has SERIOUS programming flaws. However, beneath all those glitches and bugs lies a truly great game. You only get one shot at Game of the Year and that's the year it's released. So while it is not GOTY material right now. When it's all patched and worked out, it most certainly will be the best game to have come out of this year. They could have budgeted in a couple more voice actors but other than that it's a ton of fun to play when you're not screaming at the TV or throwing your controller (I say controller because PC doesn't seem to have nearly half as many glitches)

Short Answer: Yes, It deserves it.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:51 pm

And 8.3 on the PC (metascore of 95 out of a hundred), 8.5 on the 360 (metascore of 96 out of a hundred) and 5.6 on Ps3 (metascore of 93 out of a hundred).

I think your point would be stronger if it wasn't rated high on 2 of the 3 consoles. Unless GOTY awards should be solely decided on Ps3 metacritic scores (a whole 1108 user votes).

OK, let's make a user score comparison:

Skyrim: 8.3 (PC) + 8.5 (X360) + 5.3 (PS3) = average score of 7.5

Batman: Arkham City: 7.2 (PC) + 8.4 (X360) + 8.1 (PS3) = average score of 7.9

Personally, I think a company that screws up one third of the platforms shouldn't be entitled to any rewards.

Of course you can argue that GOTY awards shouldn't be decided by Metacritic scores, but on the other hand: Metacritic scores CAN drop a company's shares and even cost the employees their bonus.
Anyway, I think it's telling that the awards don't really care about the end user experience.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:22 pm

The whole 11/11/11 thing probably gave it the edge.

But really, even Bethesda would probably believe Dead Island should've won.

i Hope you dont mind my qouting you i have do so not because i agree with, merely because your post is the only post Against Skyrim receiving GOTY that should be read.

If Skyrim does not get GOTY there has to be a game more deserving its not about oh it has bugs it shouldnt get the award or i dont like what they have done to TES so it shouldnt get the award, any post other then "I think this game was more deserving of GOTY" or "this game was better" should be ignored, its ethier based on trolling or a lack of understanding of the way the award is decided and no vaguely stating plenty of other games were better does not validate your post name who you think should have got the award!

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:18 am

No. Good but the sheer number of problems means that an unfinished games is winning the award. There were several games that deserved it far more.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:11 pm

No, not worth it at all :flamethrower:

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:26 pm

How would I know? Like most people I haven't played every game that was nominated for GOTY. In fact, I don't think I played all the games in any one category.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:56 pm

deserved, but still a lot of work to be done

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:43 pm

Yes. I `ve had hardly any problems/bugs with this game in over 200 hours and I can`t think of any better deserving games this year as they were mostly crap as usual. Witcher 2 was the only other bright beacon for me. Dead Island got boring real fast and was buggy crap.

» Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:55 am

Um lets see... loads steam... shows 155 hours played. Thinks back about other games, all of them added up to maybe 30 hours... nuff said. I mean Skyrim has some flaws but what game doesn't if you dig? It's the 10,985 things they got right that make me keep playing it every day that matter, not a couple of bugs here and there.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:59 pm

Hm. Could Skyrim be an objective general 'goty'? On all aspects, not really, on some aspects that are the game's strengths (world, length, exploration, amount of stuff to do), it definitely would.. However, VGAs are quite a bit of a joke of the industry, really - it's little more than a marketing platform... You should not equate this to 'video game oscars' or anything, it's far cruder, low-key, low-impact and massively more biased, unfair and just plain pretentious.. On the basis of that, it really really really doesn't matter squat how any game did in the VGAs.. Does Skyrim deserve the VGA GotY award? Who cares, that thing is a sham.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:20 pm

Yeah I'd say it does but so did most of the games up there, is it most deserving that's debatable.

If Portal 2, Batman AC or Uncharted 3 won it wouldn't make much of a difference to me. I have no frigging clue what Zelda Skyward Sword is doing in the top 5 nominated list, that game didn't even have voice acting and the story was very generic even for a Zelda game. Not to mention the first 5 hours were a complete snore fest.