i wanted to ask about creatures people have heard about in TES not yet seen in morrowind and any habits they might have like do sloads use weoponry and what sort also what 'habits' do you think they would have? (like picking theyre nose etc)

I think this might belong in the lore section of the forums

EDIT: Hurf durf! :facepalm:
Yes, Sloads are big and gross, so anything to capture that feeling. This would be a better thing to ask in the Lore forum though.

Maybe Lidicus is the one, who is working on one?

Sloads aren't using weapons, they use mostly magicka, and I would suggest anything ugly and repulsive as their idle animation (nosepicking, spitting ).

I'd love to see Daedra Seducers such as the ones in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Monsters. I know you have Seducers in your WIP but I wonder if it would be possible to base them on Winged Twilights so they are, well, winged and able to fly. Not much help, though, as I've never played Daggerfall but they seem to laugh a lot.

A mockery of mortal efforts. Like the hyena circling a wounded doe...

Here's a little something about the http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part05.shtml#N%27Gasta (Scroll down a little bit to the larger box on the left).
Here's also a picture of http://www.imperial-library.info/tsorg/part10image08.jpg

The Sload Practice magic and Necromancy is big part of that magic. As such i am sure they'd know a lot more about necromancy and its uses than the rougue necromancers hidding in caves raising skeletons to serve them....

Sloads = Possible the greatest Necromancers ever in NIRNs history and plague bringers.

They're slow, extremely smart and probably stinks and worships Cthulhu (no but they could have).

And they're probably masters of Mark and Recall.

They're typical hangout I hear is Senchal.

Okay, I'll put in another question that is also relevant too this topic: Are they ?good? like High Elves or are they ?bad? like, say, vampires? Sure, they are said to be disgusting, but that doesn't necessarily mean ?evil? though (Although in most fantasy/sci-fi universes it does. I.e. Hutts from Star Wars)

They came up with a plague that wiped out half of Tamriel, so I'm guessing they're not the good guys.

They're neither. You don't apply moral absolutes to races or groups in TES.

Sure, Sloads being necromancer slugs who released a plague on all of Tamriel would make them seem "evil" to Tamriel's denizens, but they probably don't see themselves as evil. They most likely don't have a concept or belief of good and evil at all. Therefore, they're "amoral". After all, Sloads are supposed to be so alien that applying human(oid) concepts to them is as pointless as applying them to Daedra.

I find Altmer (high elves) evil

I believe I read somewhere that they dont have any morals at all, they lack empathy and any other feelings that could count as "good" but then as stated above they probably dont concider themselves evil, and I believe as well that they consider the Mer of Summurset to be evil for "stealing" their land. But that could just be something I have thought about for myself.

Surely we can't generalise that much? Mannimarco used to be an Altmer, I doubt he would fit your definition of good. On the same level, Janus Hassildor could be seen as a bit more pious and fair than the vampires that hang around in caves, stabbing adventurers.

Sloads are described as being extremely gifted for magic (especially necromancy, but not just that) and to be total cowards. It is said they have the same word for "adventure" and "disaster". When fighting, a sload would invoke a lot of undead to take care of the enemy, then teleport away.

N'Gasta, the famous Necromancer of Stros M'kai, was defeated by Cyrus the Restless as the redguard held the "Flask of Lillandril", an item that absorbs magic, preventing N'Gasta from using his most powerful spells or fleeing away.

Now there's a thought - what happens when Daedric Seducer meets Sload? Love at first flight? :cookie:

There are pics of Ngasta the Sload in Redguard to be found in the account of that game in TIL.

You might review the Lore on the Great Plague that they are said to have created in an attempt to wipe out the inhabitants of Tamriel - and note that the Empire's response was to sink the Sload Continent - more or less.

There is also a trilogy on Necromancy written by Ngasta to be found in Morrowind - if you play that game - or again I am sure you would find it at TIL.

Daedric Seducer/Sload shipping?!?!

(sound of brain imploding)

As for what noises Sloads make...N'gasta talks and Cyrus understands him, so some of them know English anyway. Most of them apparently speak Esperanto.

Petiboy - can they pick their nose? They don't seem to have fingers...

I don't think anyone who does something evil thinks they're evil. Just as the Oblivion gates were opened by people who found Mankar Camoran's paradise a great enough gift to share with all the mortal races. I don't think Mankar Camoran would've allowed total annhilation, just the destruction of any opposition.

It's the same as saying in the U.S.A, there is a belief that Afghanistan is evil. But through the eyes of the Middle Eastern peoples, the U.S.A is evil.
I get what your saying, it's just impossible(In most cases), to persuade a "villain" that he/she's wrong.

People have said that Sloads are unique in the depth and extent of their amorality ... and this led to a general belief that they are totally alien. I wonder then what the Dwemer were? I saw individual Dwemer as personable and capable of emotion - but I also feel that the deeds of Kagrenac have somewhat prejudiced opinion towards the rest of the race - accepting that the ideas and beliefs/non-belief of those that followed him were self-destructive and nihilistic despite their yearning for something better.

With Sloads on the other hand we have a far more limited information base. The only personal contact has been with Ngasta who is deeply devoted to his necromantic enterprises and that is defined as evil by Dunmer and rejected by the Mages' Guild. Also the brush with Mannimarco at the end of Daggerfall was not reassuring when you consider necromancers. Not surprising that people would therefore see the Sload's activities as evil.

Consider that at the conclusion of WW2 the US set off 2 nukes ... but it is said the Sload tried to wipe out the total population of Tamriel and the Empire's response to destroy the actual, entire Sload continent as stated earlier.

In my view, although it is possible that this was in response to unrecorded or undiscovered actions of the Empire, it is all a bit over the top.

On the other hand, no one has actually asked the Sload what they feel about Sload Soap, which is made from young Sloads ...

Indeed thou if I have understood them correctly or at least what we know of them it seems as many Sloads are almost uncapable to emotions as "care/empathy" and so on.

So it's very likely that they wouldn't care much about it.

The Devs have a lot of room for manoeuver here if they decide to make more use of Sloads as the more damming 'evidence' about the nature of Sloads is potentially Imperial propaganda to.

Indeed it's highly possible that it's propaganda from the Imperial for their Plague.

Who knows... Sloads maybe love their offspring ^^

Or during troublesome times, they may eat them...
I think the Sloads should be exploited. Think how useful it would be to let the Sload clear a battlefield of corpses. Which create new diseases and carry on old ones. Was the plague an accident? Most creatures of filth unwillingly create disease and spread it. For ex: The mad cow disease. Can a cow decide to create an epidemic at it's own whim?