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Imagine you're climbing High Hrothgar and you look over the edge of a cliff only to see an area of interest that cannot be reached by any path, and the drop alone would kill you, so you cast Slowfall and slowly make your way down to this little area and find a door leading into the mountain, and beyond that door is a cool dungeon or something.

Yes, I could imagine this as very interesting, too, but I think we should keep in mind that this would only be possible, if the devs would have designed this "secret dungeon" specifically for this purpose and specifically only for the players, who find and use this specific spell. Kind of a little bit too many "specific" things, don't you think ?

Dont really care about that kind of spell. If you jump down a tower, what's supposed to happen? It would feel like cheating a little bit to me.

Dont really care about that kind of spell. If you jump down a tower, what's supposed to happen? It would feel like cheating a little bit to me.

At Novice level its work like feather spell on self, as burden at enemy, as gravitation trap thats slowing enemy on ground and charge will allow Jump at two times higher then normal jump, when channeled spell allow Slowfall, as channeled spell can be interrupted by lucky strike of enemy or (battle mages can have special training for reducing such chances thats can be implemented with perk) or with spell like Burden or paralyze or can be cleansed with Dispel or when Magicka is not sufficient for work of spell, channeled spells use different amounts of Magicka when it not sufficient its downgrades to lower perk for example mage has 150 Magicka float use 50 for cast and 5 drain for each second when Magicka lowered under 50 float will be changed with slowfall, additional checks can be added like check of player Fatigue and level of Encumbrance when Over-encumbered for example can become Burdened but instead of levitation will only allow float.

At Apprentice level when Mage understood Alternation better, Magnitude of Feather will rise, Magnitude of Burden rise, gravitation trap thats maximum burden enemy he still can attack but cant move and sink in water, charge will allow Jump at three times higher then normal jump, Mage can walk on water and don't crumble ice during channeling, but receive damage from walking over magma or another dangerous substance.

At Journeyman level Magnitude of Feather will rise, Magnitude of Burden rise more, gravitation trap thats paralyze enemy, charge will allow jump four times higher then normal jump, channel will allow float like a Lich and strafe backward without penalty, floating not allow change altitude higher then one jump height or half of it, anything higher will slowly decrease with Slowfal to one jump height or half of it, but can float over dangerous environment like lava and pits don't trigger pressure plates or similar traps.

At Expert level Magnitude of Feather will rise, Magnitude of Burden rise more, gravitation trap thats thats additionally squash enemy at end of duration, charge will allow jump five times higher then normal jump, channel will allow Levitate with both hand if another hand was equipped with something else not with gravitation spell player lose ability to rise altitude and start slow fall if spell was removed from both hands player will fall fast as normally, levitation use much more Magicka then float or water walk for cast and can drain more for sustaining.

At Master level Magnitude of Feather will rise, Magnitude of Burden rise more, gravitation trap thats rise and fall enemy into air at end of duration, charge will allow jump six times higher then normal jump, channel will allow Levitate with one hand.

With skill levels in Alternations school power of Burden and Feather will rise automatically as base spell, while channeling, charge and traps can require additional perks and added by perks dynamically by scripts into base spell when spell casted, all previous spell effects staked in higher level spell so for example Apprentice can both slowfall and and waterwalk, such way will allow remove from casted spell effects in restricted areas or trigger zones so there can be places where such magic negated like Mournhold in Morrowind just with simple script or create enemies thats invulnerable for such effect but can be harmed by other effects from that spell.

Yes, I could imagine this as very interesting, too, but I think we should keep in mind that this would only be possible, if the devs would have designed this "secret dungeon" specifically for this purpose and specifically only for the players, who find and use this specific spell. Kind of a little bit too many "specific" things, don't you think ?

Dont really care about that kind of spell. If you jump down a tower, what's supposed to happen? It would feel like cheating a little bit to me.

I think the game I've used it in the most was actually Daggerfall. Still, can't see a reason not to put it in. Might even prove quite useful.

How is this even a question and how can seven people be opposed to it?

Your point? It would make the exploration feel even more immersive.

Dont really care about that kind of spell. If you jump down a tower, what's supposed to happen? It would feel like cheating a little bit to me.

I guarantee those votes for no are the same people that cry so loudly against levitation.
Let's face facts.
There's going to be some people ( I use the word people in it's loosest sense *cough* trolls *cough*) that will whine & cry about magic until there are only damage spells left.
Mage envy, hilarious :rofl:

Spells are useful and should be powerful, but we shouldn't undermine challenges of the game because magic exists. Spells like slow fall, water breathing, levitate etc. should be higher level spells or less effective than they have been at early levels.

Equally as silly is the argument "lol, I'm mage I should be able to do whatever I want because I'm magic." I play mages almost exclusively and I want the game to present multiple and formidable challenges to me, gravity being of them.

So that's not a vote against axing slowfall, just tweaking mana costs? I can live with that.
As long as it's magicka cost is not so absurdly expensive as to be useless.
It should still be combinable with other spells such as jump without becoming unattainable as a custom spell.
To argue against keeping utility spells is never going to win though, too many people love em.

It needs to be understood that a mages true power is not the ability to blow stuff up with fireballs & lightning. Destruction is easy. Creation(Conjuration), Alteration, Restoration, those are the powers of a master of Magic.
The power to change reality without destroying it.

Of course. Though, walking like Jesus across a lake should be comparable in power to blowing up a whole gang of thieves. Just because a spell does not blow something up does not mean it is not awesomely powerful as well.