Small Ruin's Tale problem. : IV

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:16 am

Alright, so I am at the part in Ruined Tail's tale where you need to follow the Shadowseekers from Cheydinhall to the Imperial city. Only problem is, the shadowseeker's motivation seems to be bugged. For one, the horses spawn inside the city walls, even the one I am supposed to ride, and all of the assassins or whatever I'm supposed to follow just stand there.

Now, I looked up this problem on the RTT guide. And did everything it said, as in, fast travel and wait a few hours in hopes it will force them to teleport to me. No dice. I tried loading a previous save, waiting, fast traveling, saving, reloading, running in front of the shadowseekers naked, and killing everyone in town, but they never budge from their spot in front of their headquarters.

Tried looking up this kind of problem on the forums, but found nothing. Any ideas?

Oblivion.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Cobl Main.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
Knights.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
IshMultipleApparelEnchantments.esp
Compleat Enchanter balanced.esp
Compleat Enchanter easy.esp
Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
XSPipeMod.esp
Denock Arrows.esp
TOTF.esp
SetEssentialActors.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Extra Horses.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp
Portable Campsite.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Altair_Race.esp
Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Heavy Armor.esp
Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp
Crowded Roads.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
Soqui Race.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
Better Cities .esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Tamriel VWD v0.5.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
Drum_Fix.esp
Musical Immersion 1.0.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Scribe Supplies.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
Travelers' Cloaks.esp
Panzer_Kleidung_03.esp
Woodland Rangers.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Level_Stock.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Living Economy.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp
PJs Lightning Strikes - Natural Weather - No Shock Changes.esp
PJs Lightning Strikes - Natural Weather.esp
PJs Lightning Strikes - No Shock Changes.esp
PJs Lightning Strikes.esp
RTT.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - All Natural.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:21 am

What version of Better Cities are you using, and have you toggled on the Open version of Better Cities for any city, assuming you're using one of the more recent versions which includes this option?

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:03 am

I'm using the most current one, I'm quite sure, and definitely chose to NOT include any open version of a city.

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:04 am

Your load order is not correct

you have OOO.esm loading after MMM.esm and MMMForOOO.esm, when OOO.esm should be loading before it.

also you have OOO.esp loading after MMMforOOO.esp has well..when OOO.esp should be loading before MMMforOOO.esp has well..

Please Use BOSS to sort your load order and see if that fixes the problem..

» Mon May 02, 2011 11:50 pm

From what I recall, the horses are supposed to spawn in the city worldspace, then follow the NPCs as they walk to the gates. Once outside the city they mount the horses and ride away to the IC.

Were you already part-way through the Ruined Tail's Tale quest before you installed Better Cities or before you installed the BC patch for RTT?

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:44 am

Your load order is not correct

you have OOO.esm loading after MMM.esm and MMMForOOO.esm, when OOO.esm should be loading before it.

also you have OOO.esp loading after MMMforOOO.esp has well..when OOO.esp should be loading before MMMforOOO.esp has well..

Please Use BOSS to sort your load order and see if that fixes the problem..

Ah, thank you, I will correct that.

From what I recall, the horses are supposed to spawn in the city worldspace, then follow the NPCs as they walk to the gates. Once outside the city they mount the horses and ride away to the IC.

Were you already part-way through the Ruined Tail's Tale quest before you installed Better Cities or before you installed the BC patch for RTT?

I've had to re-install Better cities while in the middle playthrough of RTT, so yeah, I think.

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:48 am

That could be the problem. While I always try to ensure that a BC patch should work if installed when the conflicting mod is already partly played through, it is impossible to guarantee that it will work.

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:29 am

That could be the problem. While I always try to ensure that a BC patch should work if installed when the conflicting mod is already partly played through, it is impossible to guarantee that it will work.

Ah, Well, as suggested, I re-ordered the reccomended .esp's and .esm's, but the game froze on startup, so instead I tried deactivating the mods and re-activating them in the correct load order, but I've now run into another problem. The game now freezes whenever I select "load" on the main menu. I have two manual saves and an autosave on this playthrough, one in a city, one outside the city, and one in the wilderness. Whicheverone I select, however, freezes all the same. If I turn off any mod and try to play without it, the game crashes on start up.

Wee, what a pickle. The only mods I picked at were Better cities, MMM, and OOO.

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:28 am

Sometimes it's too late to correct a load order, you just have to stick with what you've got.

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:10 pm

You probably need to rebuild your bashed patch as freezing during load is one symptom that it's gotten itself out of sync.