Well that would pretty much go under catagory one...

i excpect smithing to be like Two Worlds 2 crafting were you can break down weapons and armor into materials and then uprgrade weapons and armor and customize there appearence to fair extent

I am thinking / hoping for something similar to Two Worlds II. Say what you will about the game...it did some things well. I like the ability to change color of armor as well as breaking down weapons and using those bits to upgrade what you have. I also wouldnt mind ability crystals to socket into a weapon...but that might get into the realm of enchanting.

You won't be able to shape your own armor. Not a chance. I'd be amazed if there was, and it takes a lot for games to amaze me.

It'll probably just be a way to make the pre-existing armor. If you are lucky it'll be mix and match.


really the best (and most feasible) system would just be having each type of armor piece, and depending on the material it'd change the texture of it. So for instance, you could create iron styled daedric armor, wherein you get the shape of the iron armor but with a daedric texture. Then you can mix and match, iron styled curaiss, with elven style pauldrons and dwemer style greaves, all of them made of ebony.

i hope we can customly shape our weapons sure there will be alot of ahem questionably shaped swords but itl be great when you get that bit of immaturity out of your system (cmon admit it thatl be the first thing you make if your able to customly shape your weapon)

High hopes, low expectations lol

hope for the best expect the worst is always a good policy with games

This :thumbsup:

To the link,....not the New Vegas method.

i think it may end up like in fallout 3 and new vegas were they had blueprints for stuff

:( that would be bad

well thats just what i invision when i here the words smithing or crafting mentioned

I dont see that meeting Bethesda's standards.I thought the crafting in New Vegas was atrocious and I am sure Bethesda thought so aswell.I expect to see something more intricate than that,but not anything like being able to mold how things actually look.There is just know way that will happen.

How was it atrocious, it wasn't bad, I mean most crafting revolves around collecting crap and making stuff with the certain skill. I agree it needed more animations and better resource to item ratios but the basic concept is not bad.

Clicking on the workbenche's was basically a nightmare visually.Having to scroll down forever just to see what you may or may not be able to make.It was so bad they had to patch it up.I guess I should have been more specific.
It was not user friendly at all and visually it was a joke.Basically you could tell that not much time was put into it,and I expect more from Bethesda is all.

Yes I can agree visually it needed tons of work. But since smithing is an acutal skill besides calling it armourer it must have had more focus. Besides they've had plenty of time to pick a concept where as Obsidian only had around 2 or so years.(I think)

Bethesda made the origonal crafting screen....

Have you forgotten that crafting was in Fallout 3?

No,it was so long ago I forgot.
That was probly the issue to begin with.Comparing TES to Fallout.Not the same game,TES is Bethesda's baby,I expect more that's all.

I find it pretty reasonable that a master will be able to make items who are better than default items, while a novice would make a mess out of ebony items.

Item models are restricted to the in game models, any extra craftable items must have their own mesh. However Oblivion and Morrowind had plenty of unique weapons and armor you could make your own version of.
The new texture system with a decal layer on top can also be used on crafted armor and weapons giving you extra features.

Let me get this straight; we know smithing is IN, but we don't know if it's going to be a player skill or just something extra we can do at the smithy.
My hope is that I'd be able to change and choose the appearance of my gears from several different selection. That's all I want.

Being able to actually design you're own armor and weapons from scratch sounds rather unrealistic to expect to me. If we could actually design our own items, it would probably rather be done by having options for the shape of different parts of the item, and also having the option to choose the color and perhaps surface texture of it, if we're lucky, we might get sliders for things like length or size, and you'd be able to choose which materials to use (With stronger materials being harder to work with, of course, since they'd produce stronger items.) and so on, so you'd have some degree of customization, but certainly you won't be modeling new weapons and items completely from scratch, unless you do it outside of the game in a mod. Much more likely, it will be like what most games which have featured item crafting do that I've seen, which is that basically you just have a list of items you can choose from that you can make, if you have the necessary components to do so. What I hope for though is that at least certain more exotic items should require you to learn how to make them, either from something like a schematic, a rare book, or from a master smith. It would just seem too easy if all that was needed to gain the ability to craft items that are supposed to be rare is a high enough skill. I also hope that there is a possibility of being able to smith certain armors or weapons that cannot be found through other means, or, alternately, that a skilled smith might be able to craft higher quality versions of generic items than what you can find in random loot. This would ensure that there's a reason to use smithing even when you can find high level items in loot.



I'm pretty sure it's an actual skill, as in the screenshot showing the skill list (As seen http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/114/1149185/elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-20110211094549550.jpg) I can see at the far right the word "SMIT" and then the screen cuts it off at what appears to be an "H", the only thing I can imagine it being is smithing. So yes, I'd say smithing is a skill. Most likely, I'd assume, it allows smithing armor and weapons and also is used for repairing them.

Also, I seem to recall Todd Howard mentioning something about wanting to have each specialization have one crafting skill, for stealth, that's alchemy, so for magic, it would naturally be enchanting, and therefore, smithing seems the only logical option for combat.

In all honesty, I would like it to be an http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBUNcRT5RZI.

I'm expecting quite a bit from crafting,todd said there is lots of it this time around,plus the have'nt shown us yet,which means they want to save it,because in my view it's something worth waiting for.....i hope ..maybe i'm expecting too much.

I think its going to be like repairing where when you get to an anvil and you have a hammer or something and the ore to make the item you make it by pressing "a", "x", or enter

I can't comment on New Vegas...I am just waiting for the price to come down to 30 bucks.

Yeah same here, it would be nice if you could choose the armour pattern and the material used to forge it and with weapons choose the hilt, the blade and the materials used however I dont expect that it will be much more than the forging in SI, however that being said has it even been said that the smithing skill will allow us to make our own weapons and armour? For all we know it could be what they renamed armorer and it works exactly the same allowing you to repair your equipment only.