Mods adding smoking cigarettes purely for decoration and character is enough for me. But I think those who can't download mods should be able to make a choice if they want their character to smoke or not. Npcs can do it too. Smoking doesn't really add anything to the gameplay, it's just a detail. Why not. Smoking's not a crime.

Cigarettes should be just like any other drug in the game. You can use them but there can be negative side effects and a chance of addiction. Everyone that is playing this game is "over 18" so you might a well let them smoke. What are the whiny mothers going to say? "I'm outraged that this game which I wasn't even supposed to buy for my twelve year old son gives you the option to actually smoke a perfectly legal cigarette while turning people into bloody chunks with a most certainly not legal rocket launcher!" This is the America (some of us not) we live in. Depraved violence is perfectly acceptable, but the moment you throw in the slightest bit of nudity or drug use, the fecal matter hits the oscillator. Even though I quit smoking two years ago, I still support people's right to smoke.

There is drugs and alcohol in Fallout 3, I see no reason to not have use-able cigarettes.

I agree...If you're going to be able to gamble in New Vegas, you should be able to actually light up your smokes. Wheres the fun in collecting tons of cigarettes if all you are going to do is sell them? I can understand where the worth of them would come into play...but only if the PC actually could smoke them.


Another excellent idea that would most certainly add to the roleplaying...after all whats a sixy, ass-kicking wasteland chick, without a lollipop in her mouth? :hubbahubba: :hubbahubba: :hubbahubba:

yesss... i would love that!

The effects of smoking are quite obvious, and I'd have my character smoke in heartbeat if he could in F3.

Possible pros:
Smoking is cool, + 1 charisma (don't start denying this, as it is impossible to win that debate - it really IS cool)
Tobacco makes you happy, + 1 luck (if you light a cigarette, the bus always comes straight away)

Cons:
Not particularly positive for your respiratory system, - 1 endurance.
Addiction, you have to get refills. The worst addiction to get rid off (depending on personal traits it may be almost impossible).
Expensive - the only smokes in existence are pre-war, and thus scarce and costly.
Withdrawal, as someone pointed out already: - 1 charisma, - 1 luck possibly, - 2 endurance as opposed to - 1 while under the influence (smokers cough MORE when they don't get their fix)

As for the morality of the game, I don't see any reason why smoking is worse than killing people and having six with prosttutes, drinking alcohol and using drugs etc., all of which are cool activities by the way and we should be allowed to do in a game when the consequences of RL does not apply (only for you character, anyways). Of course, any hypocrite will see things differently from me on this one, and nobody is a bigger hypocrite than a puclic relations or marketing person. For all of the Fallouts so far, there have been compromises between edability for the masses and the total cool outlaw game I'd like to have, but it's still way cooler than anything else.

In Fallout 3, you see various people smoking and sometimes you come across a [censored] in an ash tray, but most importantly you come across billions of packets of cigarettes and boxes of the stuff!

At least put a use to these in Fallout New Vegas! Different flavoured cigarettes which affect your performance in the game. It would make the game more realistic and also it would be satisfying to see the player smoke from time to time whilst killing things

Thats another point, were allowed to kill and murder people and all that, but we cant smoke in Fallout 3? This should be in New Vegas

Even the FEV virus can't change the fact that cigarettes kill you as dead as bullets.

We don't need our gamer children getting any funny ideas.

I find it kinda odd that cigarettes cannot be used while game lets you use opiates and amphetamines. Selling those opiates and amphetamines to kids is also perfectly acceptable.

BTW Chernobyl isn't in Russia, it's in Ukraine.

So does life.

In fact life is but a journey toward death.

Short term effects of smoking = Very mild concentration boost, probably the same as chewing gum.

I take it it's a roleplay thing. How would devs justify adding smoking to a game just to make it look and feel cool?

If i were a kid and didn't already smoke, i would be attracted to a game that allowed smoking.

I know it's not a serious consideration by obsidian or bethesda, or any mainstream game developer for that matter

Wow. I typed Russia? :facepalm:

Of course illegal drugs are okay for children.

I think it would be awsome to be able to smoke in new vegas. As a smoker i feel the need to smoke while im playing fallout the only thing missing is my character doing the same lol

"I smoke cigars because they make me look cool." (Bender Rodriguez) +1 Charisma, +5 Speech for a limited time, but -1HP per minute and -1 Endurance.

Ya smoking cigarettes wouldn't bring anything, but bad press to the game imho. Besides I think games/media in general are past that "Smoking Looks Cool" thing along with the sunglasses and such.

Nah, it still looks cool.
Smoking wouldn't add anything for me (and I smoke).

Menthol - grants the player the ability to dig jazz.

I would like to see smokable cigarettes in New Vegas. Everyone else in the wasteland can smoke, and at the very least, think about how many mothers would flip a b**ch about it.

you should be able to smoke

I wanna stogey

I don't really care if it's in there, I don't see a need for it. Neither do I smoke, or have ever smoked.
But if for some reason you can then there better be Cigars, so i can look cool killing people with a Tommy gun while smoking a cigar...and hell why not put a pipe in there aswell.

First, I don't smoke, never have, and will severely punish my child if she ever smokes or dates a smoker. That being said...

I have no problem with it being including in the game for the PC. Seeing as the Fallout Universe stopped in the 1950s (socially speaking), smoking was perfectly acceptable and there were even advertisemants from the 50s in which brands claimed doctor recommendation. Therefore, in the game itself, there is nothing socially wrong with smoking. The devs should include stat modifiers to add to the role playing element. If you don't want your PC to smoke, then don't. If you don't want your kid to play a game where they can have their character smoke, don't buy it for them. People need to learn to take responsibility for themselves and their actions/inactions. Parents, especially, need to be parents, not their kid's best friend. If you can't be bothered to actually parent, which will eventually meaning really angering you child, then don't bother being a parent.

it could fit.i mean theres psycho which looks like you inject yourself.and theres jet which is an inhalant.i don't think your crossing any lines that may have already been broken by adding cigarettes that you can put in your mouth...or better yet A STOGIE!!!! or a cigar

chewing tobacco would be cool to see in fallout as well as pipes but I really want Cigars and cigarettes and I want to smoke them.

spittoon!